Holiday Special #2

As wonderful and loving as the holiday season can be, it can also be a very difficult time of the year for some. In this episode we discuss how to deal with depression around the holidays, and we end 2016 with a special song from one of our producer's Dave DeAngelis! We hope everyone has a wonderful Holiday and New Year!

Transcript

Welcome to Life,

Lessons and Laughter with your host Glenn Ambrose.

Hello welcome to the podcast.

This is our 2016 Christmas special.

Yeah,

That's exciting.

This is coming out on Christmas.

Christmas Day.

Which is nice.

For both of us,

We're currently recording this for the first time in your new place.

Which is awesome.

This is going to be both of our first Christmases in our new homes.

Which is kind of cool.

It is cool.

So that's awesome.

In numerology it's a nine year.

So everything goes in nine year cycles.

So we're wrapping up everything that we had been going through.

All the lessons we're learning.

Are you saying that since 2007,

That's nine years,

Since 2007 we've been learning lessons and going through stuff and it's coming to an end right now?

Yes.

But I mean it just starts a new cycle of nine years.

That makes a lot of sense actually.

It's very interesting.

I've been noticing it for the last,

Somebody mentioned that to me a few months ago.

And I've been noticing it and mentioning it here and there.

And every time I mention it,

People are like,

Oh my god,

That makes so much sense.

And yeah,

That's why for me,

Part of what I was supposed to go through in my nine years was opening up the Life Enhancement Center and really getting the business off the ground and running and all that stuff.

And I did that.

And then this place came into being very quickly.

It was just like in a month,

A month and a half,

All of a sudden it was like,

Oh,

I think I'm going to move.

I found a place I'm moving.

I'm in.

But it was meant to happen by the end of this year.

So I could kind of wrap up the infancy stage of my business and really take a step into the beginning of the next phase.

Yeah.

And a couple months have felt like the finale of a TV show when things just start happening really,

Really quickly because they want to wrap everything up.

Right.

Or the end of a fireworks show.

Just boom,

Boom,

Boom,

Boom,

Boom,

Boom,

Boom.

That's awesome.

This has nothing to do with Christmas,

But a couple weeks ago,

There was a lady at Trivia who was just smashed and she was sitting next to me and there was a question.

For those of you that don't know,

Ben does a trivia show.

And there was a question and one of the possible answers was nine.

And she was like,

She didn't say nine,

Which is funny because after the explanation,

She said,

I knew it was going to be nine.

It's always nine.

If you ever have multiple choice questions and one of the answers is nine,

It has to be nine because nine is the soul of the numeric system.

Wow.

And I was like,

Okay.

Okay.

And then she was like,

You know,

Like six and three is nine,

Like all,

Like every.

I was like,

I don't know what you're talking about,

Baby.

And then I started to notice and I actually called it out this past Wednesday that every time nine has been a possible answer,

It's been nine.

Interesting.

Maybe this lady knew something I didn't.

Yeah.

Maybe she's into numerology.

So yeah.

Is there something in numerology that would dictate that,

That you know of?

That would dictate the answer always being nine?

Yeah.

Or like nine being a very important number.

I don't know enough about it,

Honestly.

We got to get a numerologist on the show.

Yeah.

Gladys Ellen does that.

She,

I believe she was the one that mentioned it to me first.

Gladys Ellen,

Friend of the show.

Yeah.

Yeah.

She did actually.

She said like earlier this year,

Right?

Yeah.

Yeah,

We did.

And,

And she mentioned to me that it was a nine year,

I believe because we're talking about stuff and it was all wrapping up.

Yeah.

She said like,

This is the,

This is the year that everybody learns.

Oh my God.

It was at the beginning of 2016.

She said,

This is the year that everybody learns what they needed to learn.

2015 was the year of change and 2016 is the year where you start reaping what you sow.

And it kind of was.

Yeah.

Yeah,

It is.

Yeah.

I mean,

There's always,

You know,

If,

If you look for things,

There is,

There's definitely some divine order and some consistencies that go,

Go with it.

And I,

I'm not a big,

I don't follow astrology,

Numerology,

Any of that stuff very closely.

Because I believe we have free will and we can kind of steer things in different directions and based on our actions.

But I do see a lot of coincidences with those numbers,

Which obviously aren't really coincidences.

And so I kind of like having them in the back of my mind because it helps me make sense of things a little bit quicker.

And you know,

It kind of helps me push forward when,

Like finding this place,

You know,

It's,

I don't know that I would have moved so quickly if it didn't really make sense.

You know,

It seemed to be going in that direction,

But that was just a little piece that made me feel a little bit more comfortable about what I was doing.

You know,

I guess that's what I use it for.

It's just when I go like,

Boy,

This seems to be moving really quickly.

Am I making rash decisions or no,

No,

Because it's just this,

It makes sense that I'm wrapping up a stage,

You know,

So,

Which is very exciting for next year,

You know,

Because now we're taking the ground that we've created through the last nine years and who we've become and we're taking that person and we're going,

Okay,

Here you are now with all your capabilities and all you've learned and all the progress you made.

Now you're standing at a new starting point.

Ready?

Now go off for another nine years and build off of that.

And that's really exciting to me.

So I just thought about this.

If it's nine years,

Right?

So it was 07 to 16.

That would mean that the previous one was 97 to 06.

Yeah.

Right?

And that's,

That nine years is really scary to me to think about as a nine year change.

Yeah.

Yeah.

You went through a lot?

Oh yeah.

Huge,

Huge,

Like huge difference between 97,

Which was like the worst year ever to 2006,

Which was probably the greatest year that I had.

So that's really cool.

But so we should probably talk about Christmas on a Christmas special.

Christmas.

Uh,

I don't do anything cool for Christmas.

Um,

I don't,

I like,

There's nothing cool to talk about for that.

It's very nice.

Um,

But I know that,

Uh,

Christmas is hard for a lot of people.

The holiday season is really hard.

It is.

And you know,

I've been seeing some of that pop up on Facebook,

Uh,

Over the last few days.

Um,

You know,

People are,

People are struggling and it's coming up to,

To the forefront of things that bother them,

You know,

Relationships with family and,

And even looking at their life and going,

This is not where I thought I was going to be.

Um,

So a lot of that,

And obviously missed loved ones,

You know,

Especially that have passed or that the relationship has strained.

So,

Um,

You know,

A lot of that stuff just comes up to the forefront.

And I,

You know,

I think the holidays,

Definitely the,

The weather getting cold,

You know,

When the weather gets cold,

You're kind of stuck with yourself.

You know,

There's not as many distractions that you can do outside of the house when you're kind of closed into four walls,

All of a sudden you're,

You're locked in with your thoughts and yourself and it's not as easy to escape from yourself,

You know,

So you start being more introspective and then whatever you haven't dealt with in the past comes bubbling up to the surface.

So yeah,

A lot of that stuff is happening right now.

Um,

It's,

What do you like,

How do you remedy that?

Like if you're saying like the,

Obviously if you're,

If you're missing a loved one,

You know,

The holidays are tough for that.

And like,

What do you,

How do you,

How do you do,

How do you deal with that stuff?

You know,

Missing the loved ones is,

Is kind of a lot of things you can do,

I think are,

Can be a little bit more specific towards maybe the time of year.

Missing a loved one is missing a loved one,

You know,

Like that can,

That can bother you just as much on their birthday,

Which could be in the summer or,

Or you know,

The day of their passing or,

You know,

Depending on the situation,

It can just plain be there always,

You know?

Um,

So,

So you know,

It's just a matter of,

Especially,

I guess since death is,

Can be so traumatic that that is one that it's just an,

Uh,

Uh,

An extension of what you need to do on a daily basis,

You know,

And that is really just acceptance.

You know,

Acceptance is a big part of death because all suffering is resistance to what is.

So if,

If you work on accepting the fact that this,

That person is no longer here and you work on that piece of acceptance,

That,

You know,

That doesn't mean that you agree with it.

It doesn't mean that you like it.

It doesn't mean that you think it's right.

It just means accepting the fact that they are no longer here.

Just like you're accepting the fact that a blue pen writes blue.

That's it.

It's just,

It's just a fact.

It's not good.

It's not bad.

It just is.

That's just a fact.

Now you can have feelings about it,

But,

But that's separate,

You know,

So separating the feelings you have about it from the fact of them being gone,

You know,

So,

You know,

That's generally where we need to start with that stuff and then feel,

Feel,

Deal and heal with,

With the emotions that are around it,

You know,

And that's different for everybody.

And,

You know,

Like I think some people have this idea that after a very tragic loss that they're never going,

That they really focus on,

I'm never going to be the same again,

That will never heal and stuff.

And all in a way that that that's true.

You won't ever be the same again,

But you won't ever be the same again after a lot of things.

You know,

We're never the same again.

So you can learn to function better on a daily basis though,

You know,

You can learn to walk with purpose instead of in misery.

You know,

You can do things like that.

You can,

You know,

Make things live your life so that the person that has passed would be proud.

You know,

A lot of times when I'm talking with somebody that that's struggling with that,

I'll put it on them.

You know,

Generally that generally there's other family members.

So generally I'll say,

Okay,

Well,

What if you passed,

What would you want the rest of your family to do with the next 50 years that they have on this planet?

Oh,

Well,

You know,

Do you want them to walk around suffering,

Crying and being miserable until the day they die?

Oh my God,

No.

You know,

No,

I would want them,

I love them,

I want them to be happy.

Okay.

So that's how we honor people that have passed by making the most out of our lives.

Walking around,

You know,

Depressed all the time is not honoring their memory.

And I understand that it's difficult to do that sometimes after a very close loss,

But it's once you start chipping away at that and really getting an understanding that,

You know,

Carrying a torch and making yourself miserable in somebody else's name is not honoring them.

It's,

You know,

It's not a gift to them.

And it doesn't mean,

You know,

Before when we didn't know as much as we know now,

Like in a spiritual sense,

Before we used to have this unconscious,

Unrealistic belief system that the more we suffered,

That meant that we loved that person more.

And if we stopped suffering,

Then that just means that we didn't actually care for that person.

And it's just,

It's ridiculous.

You know,

I mean,

If you really pick that apart and look at it,

It makes zero sense.

You know,

So we can try to move on in their memory.

And that's showing our love for them,

You know,

Because that's what they would want.

So,

You know,

That's,

So although it's,

You know,

The Christmas time is the most difficult,

It's also the most magic in the air.

You know,

I mean,

A good portion of the world is rallying around love to,

You know,

To some degree.

I mean,

I understand that it's gotten commercialized and all that stuff,

But there is a larger focus on love during Christmas time than other times of the year.

So you know,

So that means there's more energy around.

So if we put our attention and our focus on healing during that time,

It can be a very healing time.

You know,

Go do something for other people in the name of your loved one that passed.

Yeah.

You know,

Things like that.

Honor them that way.

And if you're,

If it's like loneliness,

You know,

If maybe you're not missing anybody,

But you're,

You don't feel like you have anyone.

Yeah,

The loneliness can definitely kick in again when you're locked in the house because of the cold weather.

But,

But also spending the holiday with people.

You know,

And it's,

That is,

You know,

Take some action,

You know,

Make some plans,

Do,

You know,

Do something.

Sitting inside feeling sorry for yourself isn't going to better the situation.

You know,

And the reality of it is,

Is there is nothing worse technically about the holidays.

It's just,

It gives us an excuse to feel sorry for ourselves,

You know?

I think it's because of,

We've talked about this before,

Expectations.

Right.

I think that the holidays have certain expectations and then you put pressure on yourself because of the expectations.

And we're always comparing our insides to everybody else's outsides.

So we're sitting there and,

You know,

Like we're sitting in traffic on,

Around Christmas and feeling sorry for ourselves.

And we go,

Look at all these people,

They're out and they're going to visit with their family and they're going to buy presents for their loved ones.

And they're going to have these wonderful dinners and they're going to be all,

You know,

It's going to be like a beautiful Christmas movie at everybody's houses.

You know,

This is what we're consciously or unconsciously comparing ourselves to.

And it's,

But then if you talk to people,

That's not the reality of the situations.

Like a lot of people are very nervous because,

You know,

Uncle Joe's going to get tanked again this Christmas and whip something across the table at Martha or something,

You know?

I mean,

It's,

You know,

There are a lot of stresses that go on in holidays and it's just the more we can relax into them and focus on what the meaning of the holiday is,

The better off we're going to be.

And you know,

As far as the feeling of lonely and the other aspects that we go through,

We have to realistically look.

And the only thing that's going to get us out of that on Christmas or the holidays or any other time of the year is understanding that where we are is not nearly as important as where we're going.

You know,

It's,

We have to,

That's what's important.

It's where we're going.

So what we have to do is focus on the,

You know,

Looking at,

If you don't like where you are,

Then look at it realistically.

Figure out what the solution is.

You know,

If you're single and you want to be in a relationship,

Then spend some time either,

I mean,

Personally,

I recommend spending some time finding out what a real,

Like an actual healthy relationship looks like because most people don't know.

So go read some books,

You know,

Like,

Um,

Rob and Kristen Bell's,

The Zim Zum of Love.

I love that book.

I mean,

I think that that's a,

That gives more of a realistic look at what a healthy relationship can be like.

And then there's one,

Conscious Loving.

I have it over here.

I think it's,

I think it's by Gay Hendrickson and his wife.

But that's another good book.

Yeah,

We talked about that.

Yeah.

I've brought these up before.

And it's like,

These are good books to learn about yourself and what a healthy relationship is.

You know,

Take that time when you're alone to figure out how can we find what we want if we don't even know what it looks like.

Right.

You know,

And we've never been taught what a healthy relationship looks like.

We've been taught by society's standards what codependency looks like.

You know,

We've been taught what,

Um,

We've been taught what you complete me looks like,

You know,

But generally that's dysfunctional.

So,

You know,

Spend some time working on yourself so that you know what a healthy relationship is and you know what you're looking to achieve.

And you become,

You know,

You can't have what you aren't.

If you're unhealthy,

You can't be in a healthy relationship.

So spend time working on yourself,

Becoming healthy,

And then you can attract that healthy relationship.

You know,

I mean,

That,

That to me is the first step.

You know,

Not everybody's going to go that route.

So go on,

You know,

Go on match.

Com or something,

You know,

Take some action.

If you don't like where you are,

Assess where you are,

Find out what the solution is and implement that solution.

You know,

Our three step process for solving any problem.

Yeah.

So,

You know,

Get clear on what the problem is,

Figure out what the solution is,

And then implement that solution and just move through it.

You know,

We,

We get so focused on,

I don't like where I am.

I don't like where I am.

I don't like where I am.

Well,

All you're doing is creating more of the same.

If you just sit there,

Keep saying,

I don't like where I am,

Guess where you're going to be six months from then,

A year from then,

You're going to be in the same exact place.

So don't spend a lot of time going,

I don't like where I am.

You can say that once.

I don't like where I am.

Okay.

Well,

Then what should I do?

You know,

And then figure out what you should do and take some steps towards it.

Right.

You know,

Life is really not that complicated.

That's it.

Right.

If you want something,

Walk towards it.

You know,

It's,

It's that easy.

So now we've talked about the emotional side of Christmas.

Let's put the Christ back in Christmas.

That kills me when people say that.

Put the Christ back.

Like,

Where did it go?

It's literally in the name.

Do you think that there's a war on Christmas,

Glenn?

I don't think so.

I mean,

I just,

I think it's like most things it's,

You know,

Things are evolving and changing and shifting and people don't like change,

So they get scared and fearful and you know,

That's what we see.

I mean,

You know,

If,

If you like the Christ in Christmas,

It's your Christmas.

It's not anybody else's.

It's what goes on in your heart is what goes on in your heart.

You know,

I don't care if,

What was it?

I think it was last year.

There was a big stink because somebody changed their coffee cups or something.

Oh yeah.

Yeah.

Like,

Yeah,

Starbucks.

They just went with a plain red or something.

Yeah.

Like,

Who cares?

Who cares?

Like,

That's gonna,

That's gonna,

I mean,

If,

If Jesus was here and you said,

You know,

Jesus,

I was really going to celebrate the birth of you and everything you stood for and the love that you are and all that,

But then this fricking Starbucks changed the color of their coffee cups.

Do you believe that?

He'd be like,

Really?

Like,

Seriously?

What does that have to do with the love that's in your heart?

I don't care if they have purple coffee mugs that say,

Drink more on them.

It doesn't matter.

You know,

It has nothing to do with what's going on inside of your heart.

That's where love lives is inside of you.

So I,

I,

You know,

I think it's just like most things,

It's just change.

People get all fearful and,

And they latch on to things that don't really even make any sense once you get underneath them.

It's nobody's coming into your house,

Dragging your Christmas tree out and saying that you can't celebrate the birth of Jesus.

I do that to some people.

Well,

Yeah,

But most people don't do that.

Regardless of my views.

I just drive around.

If I see a Christmas tree I don't like,

I knock on the door.

I like it.

I noticed this year,

I like it when people say Merry Christmas to me for their sake.

Like because I like that they're confident enough in themselves to just say Merry Christmas,

You know,

Because that's what they feel like saying.

So good to say it.

Yeah,

But although I can kind of tell energy pretty well too.

So sometimes people like jam Merry Christmas down your throat just to prove that nobody's going to tell them what to say.

That's different.

But when somebody looks at you and goes,

Merry Christmas in like in joyful energy,

It's really nice and I really enjoy it.

When somebody is like,

Merry Christmas.

Yeah,

I said it.

You know,

Then it's like,

Yeah,

You just kind of suck the love right out of it because now it's an ego thing and you're trying to prove that you're a badass by saying Merry Christmas,

Even though some people don't think you should.

And you know,

Then there's no love behind it.

You know,

I was going to say that I haven't really thought about it,

But like two weeks ago I did something nice randomly for some strangers.

Nice.

And yeah,

That's not important.

But yeah,

It is very important.

But the guy,

It was a couple and they had a daughter and the guy just looked at me very sincerely and was like,

Merry Christmas.

Thank you so much.

Merry Christmas.

And I was like,

Oh,

Like,

Yeah,

That was like,

I wasn't expecting that.

And I don't,

I don't consider myself Christian or Catholic,

Even though I was raised Catholic.

You know,

I don't consider myself that,

But like for me,

It's honoring whatever form of love you believe in.

I don't care.

You know,

I have a godson that's Jewish,

So happy Hanukkah,

You know?

And I send him a present every year,

Even though I'm probably supposed to send him seven,

But whatever.

Eight?

Okay.

Well,

I send him one.

How do you not know how many nights Hanukkah is?

Eight crazy nights.

You should know that.

Yes,

I do know.

I do know.

But for some reason,

I don't know why I had seven in my head.

But anyway,

I send him one.

It's just a symbol of my connection to him.

So it's like,

For me,

The way I look at Christmas,

And you know,

Everybody can look at it in their own way.

I truly believe that.

I,

Not considering myself Christian,

I look at it as,

I think it'd be pretty hard for anybody to argue that Jesus wasn't at least one of the best spiritual teachers that ever set foot on the planet.

That would be very difficult to argue that point.

So that's how I look at it.

I look at honoring the birth of one of the best spiritual teachers,

If not the best that ever walked the planet.

Somebody that came into this world and spread love.

And that's what I think is important.

So that's my outlook on it.

But that's just my personal outlook.

I think if we all search for,

If you don't believe in anything,

And you just want to say,

You know what,

I believe that one day a year,

We should just try to be in a good mood.

If that's what you want Christmas to mean to you,

Then that's what Christmas means to you.

We don't need to worry about a lot of other things.

I remember years ago,

One of my clients came to me and they told me that they were doing something they didn't really believe.

They were in a couple and they said,

My client was part of a couple,

And she said that,

Told me something unique that they were doing for Valentine's Day because they didn't really like all the hoopla around Valentine's Day,

The normal aspect of it.

So her and the person she was in a couple with were going to do something that they agreed on.

And I was like,

That's so beautiful because instead of complaining about what you think the meaning should be,

You created a meaning between you two that you both agreed on that meant something special to you.

And then you took action on that.

That is how we need to make room for comparing narratives in this world.

We need to make room for other people to have other beliefs than us.

And if we stop arguing about what everybody else believes in and what they should believe in and what we believe in,

And if we just focus on cleaning up our own house and taking care of ourselves and celebrating the joy and the love that's within us and the people that are around us at that moment,

That's honoring Jesus.

That's honoring,

That's taking a special day out of the year and bringing love into it,

Which is what the holidays are supposed to be.

That's the goal of it.

So just do it in your own way.

That was beautiful.

Thank you.

Honestly.

And final question.

Santa Claus,

Real,

Not real.

Oh man.

In spirit,

He's real.

Oh man.

Yeah.

I'm not touching that one.

I don't know who's listening.

So I'm not touching it.

But in spirit,

He's definitely real.

Oh,

I saw the sleigh when I was a little kid in the sky at night when I was driving home from my aunt and uncle's.

I've been watching more Christmas specials this year because in my previous life,

I was not a big fan of Christmas or the holidays at all.

So little by little by little,

I'm embracing it more and more and more each year.

So this year I've been watching Christmas movies.

I probably watched like three,

Maybe four of them,

Maybe even five already.

And it's a little bit before Christmas.

So that's pretty good for me.

That's a new high.

But it's funny because I see all the little skits and a sleigh getting out of control that's not manned by Santa and shooting over somebody's car and a kid in the car going,

Hey,

There it is.

It's like nice.

I love that.

I love that outlook.

Yeah.

We have a list of Christmas movies that we're going to try to watch this week.

Oh yeah.

Generally,

I just stick with Elf and Christmas Vacation.

Those two are like my ones I really try to watch each year.

Elf is one of my favorite movies.

And then I mean,

I do like,

What's the one with the shoot your eye out kid?

Oh,

Christmas Story?

Yeah.

I really do enjoy that one too.

We watched a Muppet Christmas Carol last night.

The best version of a Christmas Carol.

Yeah.

You guys mentioned that last year.

I think I'm going to have to watch it because.

.

.

Dave knows every word.

Last night he was like,

Did I watch this all year round?

How do I know this so well?

Yeah.

I think I'm going to have to check that one out because it's come up too often.

So all right.

Well,

I think that's it for our Christmas special.

Yeah.

We did it.

Yeah.

And I do not have any mistletoe in my doorways.

Thank God.

Yeah,

I know.

Because it's just three guys here and it just ain't going to happen.

Maybe.

.

.

Oh no.

Last year.

.

.

No,

That's not what I was saying.

Last year we had two songs on our Christmas special from Dave.

We're going to end with a song.

Oh,

Nice.

Yeah.

All right.

And it's going to be a surprise.

Yeah.

I'm not even going to tell you what it is,

So it's going to be a surprise.

Awesome.

But our producer,

Dave DeAngelis,

Is going to tack one on at the end for us.

Sweet.

So if anybody wants to start the new year with life coaching.

.

.

Yeah.

I mean,

What a great time.

If you're on the phone or in person here at the beautiful new Life Enhancement Center.

Yes.

Nice peaceful place here that I have.

Yeah.

Go to life-enhancement-services.

Com.

This is the time when you're sitting around looking at your life,

Like we said earlier,

And you go,

Geez,

I don't like where I am.

Or you're just looking at it and go,

Wow,

Look at all I accomplished in the last nine years.

And the next year is the beginning of a new cycle.

I want to hit the ground running and really take everything that I used in the past to launch me into the next evolution of who I'm becoming.

Yeah.

Getting some life coaching and getting some direction is one of the best ways that you can do that.

So reach out.

Let me know.

And I am connecting with people literally all over the world.

Somebody from Costa Rica just contacted me the other day.

So it's just I can work with anybody anywhere just over the phone or Skype and if you're local in person.

So have a wonderful Christmas.

Thanks for everything,

Dave and Ben,

This year.

Thank you.

And I guess I'll do it for the show.

Merry Christmas,

Everyone.

Merry Christmas.

Take it away,

Dave.

Oh,

Holy night.

The stars are brightly shining.

It is the night of our dear Savior's birth.

Long lay the world in sin and error pining.

Till he appeared and the soul felt its worth.

A thrill of hope the weary world rejoices.

For yonder breaks a new and glorious morn.

Fall on your knees.

Oh hear the angel voices.

Oh night divine.

Oh night when Christ was born.

Oh night divine.

Oh night,

Oh night divine.

Truly he taught us to love one another.

His law is love and his gospel is peace.

Chains shall he break for the slave is our brother.

And in his name all oppression shall cease.

Sweet hymns of joy in grateful chorus raise.

We let all within us praise his holy name.

Christ is the Lord.

Then ever,

Ever praise we his power and glory.

Evermore proclaim.

Oh night divine.

Oh night,

Oh night divine.

Reviews

Thank you! What a beautiful message and song!

Great episode, nice to look at things a bit differently... Thanks gentlemen, and Dave's singing is awesome! 💜x

Very nice. Really liked the music.

Lot of nuggets of helpful information in here! Glad I took notes :-) Glenn’s advice: feel, heal, and deal.
Where you are isn’t nearly as important as where you are going.

Just so like you guys! Thank you ✨✨✨ Thanks for the book suggestions.