Real-Self Reflects Into Mind, Becomes Ego

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Happiness is here and now

Real-self reflects into mind, becomes ego

Happiness Here and Now is talk from the greatest master Astavakra. It is step-by-step understanding or simply understanding in an open session that helps achieve the highest meditative state. The teaching is free from yoga, mantra, tantra, meditation, mindfulness still helps us achieve freedom, permanent happiness in life.

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One of the greatest texts.

You know,

Beyond the West,

When we say choiceless awareness,

Meditation here and now,

Instant meditation,

So all these words were coined from this text.

So this text emphasizes on understanding.

And understanding of what?

Understanding of our real nature.

So understanding of our real nature,

First it means I have to study the Eastern wisdom,

What is my real self and what is not my real self.

But in order to study,

I have to become a seeker.

See that?

So in order to become a seeker,

This master in the first chapter has,

The seeker has asked three questions.

Do you remember the three questions when we started?

So how the dispassion is attained?

One of the most important qualifications in the journey of awakening and meditation.

On Mondays and Thursdays,

We will understand deeply what exactly is dispassion.

Patanili also talks.

So he asked directly the question,

How dispassion is attained?

So when you have that level of dispassion,

Which is a state of the mind,

In that state of the dispassion,

The master gives the knowledge of the real self.

So when you live at the highest level of dispassion,

And the master is giving you the knowledge,

At the same time,

The meditation also happens.

Meditation also takes place.

This is what the summary of it.

So in the very first chapter,

The master explains the very nature of real self.

We have 20 verses in the first chapter.

So he explains what exactly is the nature of the real self.

Nature of the real self.

Sometimes people get upset if I give their stories,

But I will not tell you the name.

So one student,

We used to receive lessons from me,

And then came the lesson on dispassion.

So normally in the literal teaching,

It's what they say.

Teaching is about renunciation,

Detachment,

Understanding the mind within.

So I taught them that,

You know,

So what he did,

He went to his house and told his wife that I'm totally detached.

Don't talk to me.

So I'm now a monk.

So his wife called me later,

Sir,

What did you teach him?

He says that he is detached.

So I was talking of the internal detachment in order to remove the wrong notion,

But he took it,

You know,

And then,

So it is very,

That is why we need to become a seeker.

So as we understand after the 20th verse,

If you have understood it clearly,

And if your intellect has absorbed the understanding,

Then what happens in the next chapter?

The seeker narrates his experiences.

So you have to align with the seeker,

Whether you live into that state or you are not living into that state.

So let us take the 19th verse.

Yathai vadarshamadhyasthairupintaparistaktu.

Tathevasmin sariranthe parita haparameshwara.

So if I literally translate,

It means just as a mirror exists within and without the image reflected in it.

I think you get it.

So this real self exists inside and outside this body.

He makes a very bold statement.

He says,

What is the idea in it?

The image is in the mirror has no real existence.

It appears and it disappears.

No real existence.

It is a reflected image.

So it is merely an appearance.

So only the mirror exists.

So he says,

Tathai vasmin,

Similarly,

Only the real self exists.

Body,

Mind have no real existence.

But you know those people who are not a seeker,

Who do not understand what it means by the real and the unreal,

They will leave studying this,

They will stop the practice.

So real existence and unreal existence means,

The real existence means the thing and object remains as it is.

Their time does not influence,

The space does not influence,

But the body is influenced by the time,

Body is influenced by the shape.

So that is what we are talking of the unreal and the real existence.

So what he says,

They have no real,

It is only by being superimposed on the self that they appear to exist.

Just as the reflection cannot affect the mirror,

So the body,

Mind cannot affect,

Influence,

Dictate the self.

Now,

If you relate this worse with the state of dispassion,

The mind is living into the state of dispassion.

The moment sense organ perceives,

Mind experiences anything in the world outside.

World outside,

The intellect instantly without thinking separates the real from the unreal.

In that state,

Meditation takes place.

This is what the master says.

So if we go back and if we pick up couple of the verses,

So the master has given many practices.

He said in the beginning,

Object outside is like a poison.

Poison,

It restricts awakening,

It prevents a meditative state.

It means whatever I see,

If that object creates an attachment,

Passion,

Then it is a poison.

It doesn't mean that I see you,

You are a poison to me and you see me that I'm a poison to you.

So until we are a seeker,

We cannot understand that.

So what he says,

Then what happens?

There is one process that we should cultivate forgiveness,

Kindness,

Straightforwardness.

By discernment and dispassion,

We can reach to that state.

Another practice,

Which I always love,

Yadi deham pratak kratyate vishtram meitishtasi.

You are in the field of awareness,

When the mind moves inside,

Leaves the body in the state of dispassion and the mind continues to live within.

That is,

That leads to instant peace and happiness.

We all experience in a deep sleep.

Body is not there,

Mind is not there.

But can we bring the sleeping state at the conscious level,

Where the body and the mind is not there?

We are already into the meditative state.

Then in another verse,

He says,

Dispassion by discernment,

That we are none of these objects,

Which is seen,

Felt,

Experienced by the sense organ in the mind.

Can I withdraw myself?

That is what he means,

The withdrawal.

Or there is another way that he explains,

Neither the doer nor the enjoyer.

Because the ego builds over it and that ego prevents the witness consciousness.

Now he says what he says about the mirror.

So he equates the mirror as the real self.

Any image is reflected in the mirror.

Any image.

Any image is reflected in the mirror inside,

Or not reflected.

What happens to the mirror inside or outside?

Nothing happens to the mirror.

So what happens to my real self?

The body has a lot of challenges.

Mind is upset,

But nothing happens to that real self.

Can we reach to that state of dispassion?

Relate to the three questions the seeker asked,

How the dispassion is attained.

First question,

How the knowledge of the real self is attained,

And then he asked,

How the freedom awakening or liberation is attained.

So he's answering in the 19th verse.

Then why to practice with eyes closed when we have a state of dispassion?

That the next question comes the real meditation,

Or when we reach to the highest state of meditation,

We need not to close our eyes.

We remain in the state of dispassion.

So two things,

Dispassion and the knowledge of the real self is clear.

And in that state,

You are,

Your eyes are open,

And still you live into that state of meditation,

24 by seven.

Now,

So how to understand it?

Two famous examples are given.

One famous example by all the masters.

Pot,

You take a pot,

The space inside the pot,

And the space outside the pot.

Are there,

Do we have two spaces or only one space?

The space inside this room and the space outside?

Well,

That is how the master of the Eastern wisdom teaches us,

So are there two?

For transactional reality,

There are two.

I'm outside the home,

I'm inside the home.

But in reality,

The space is one.

In reality,

The space is one.

So what is that thing which created the space,

Which created the two space,

Outside and inside?

It is the wall.

So this wall is the body,

The real self is inside,

And the same real self is also outside.

This is what the master is saying.

You see the initial teaching of the Eastern wisdom,

Non-violence means the way I love myself,

I should be loving others.

So that is the primary teaching.

So here is what is the highest teaching?

Real self is present everywhere.

The same real self that is within me,

That is also in you,

It is the same,

It is only one.

So when the tongue is hurt by the teeth,

We do not punish the teeth,

Same way.

Even if the mind feels the hurt from others,

We do not punish.

That is where the non-violence comes.

It is not preaching non-violence,

That doesn't work in yoga.

It is beyond morality and ethics.

So now come to the same example.

So the space inside the house,

And the space outside is one.

So should I break the wall to see the space is one,

Or the knowledge should happen in the head?

Knowledge should happen in the head.

When it happens,

When there is a dispassion.

How the dispassion takes place?

When there is a discernment.

What is discernment?

That through the intellect,

We understand what is real and what is unreal.

And how do we practice discernment?

By thinking.

But if my thoughts is not focused,

For clarity and understanding,

Hence that we have to gain the focus,

We have to remove the impurity of the mind.

And what is the impurity of the mind?

The wrong notions.

That is why we should study these principles of Eastern wisdom.

Normally,

We say from a teacher.

Now going back to the same verse,

What he says,

He gives an example of a mirror.

Reflection is in the mirror.

Mirror is present within and outside the reflected image.

He gives one of the greatest principle here.

The moment I see my body,

The real self is a mirror reflecting this body.

As you stand before the mirror,

You see your reflected image.

You leave the mirror,

No reflected image.

Now compare this it with the body,

That real self,

That pure consciousness,

That choiceless awareness,

Call it a mirror.

What it is reflecting the moment you say,

This is my body,

Body is reflecting in that,

This is not you.

The way you see the reflected image in the mirror is not you.

The same way in the real self,

This body is reflecting as an image,

It is not you.

It can only be achieved when we live at the highest state of dispassion.

This is what the master is saying.

So,

So what he says,

Yathaiva darshma dhyaste rubinta paritta sthuta sa tathaivasmin shariranthe paritta ha parameshvara ha So he says,

He uses the word supreme self.

So now he is equating the real self as the supreme self.

He is using the word parameshvara ha parameshvara ha,

Yathaiya.

So he says that only the self exists.

Why the self exists?

What is the goal of meditation?

I want to find out the ultimate reality.

What is that ultimate reality?

The real self.

So then when he says the only the self exists means what?

It is all pervading.

One pure consciousness that alone exists.

Body being superimposed on the self that they appear to exist.

The last point if you contemplate daily before going into meditation.

In the entire every master explains the reality or the things and objects of the word in three categories.

They put it into three categories.

Normally in the West,

We put I into two categories.

One category is the truth.

The other is untruth.

So when we say the truth,

It is all pervading.

It is ever present.

It is not influenced by the time and the space and the causation.

Like space cannot be divided.

Like consciousness cannot be broken.

Now see,

When I say I do not exist,

It is only through the consciousness I can say.

I cannot deny consciousness.

And I say,

I am conscious,

I exist,

We cannot deny consciousness.

We cannot refute it.

That is what the truth is all about.

So then this,

Our masters explain in between untruth.

My master used to say,

Elephant is flying in the sky.

It is untruth,

Totally untruth.

How can the elephant fly?

But then in between the two,

There comes the third,

Which we say as a false.

But the right word is mithya.

Mithya,

How to define the mithya?

That appears true,

But it is not true.

That appears true,

But not true.

How come?

The water in the miras appears true,

But it is not true.

Because of the desire in the world,

Mind is running outside all the time,

Like I'm chasing a miras,

I'm chasing the water in the miras.

So when the mind is attached to these objects of the senses,

The mind runs into the mithya,

Which appears true,

But it is not true.

So what is the understanding of that,

What appears true?

In this week,

If you contemplate,

The moment any object enters into your mind,

You start evaluating,

Reason it,

What it means,

What appears true,

But it is not true.

Simple understanding is that,

That appears true means body appears true.

I am the body for all practical purposes.

But am I really the body?

So the body appears true as if I am the body,

But I am not.

The blueness of the sky will continue to be seen to me,

But still we are 100% clear,

The sky is not blue.

We are 100% clear,

The wave is not the water,

The storm is not the water,

The essential nature of the water is different from the wave,

The storm and the flood and the ocean.

Similarly,

We real self,

That real self is different from what appears true in our daily life.

Can I put the intellect to sit into that state?

It can only be achieved by the dispassion.

Dispession is achieved by the discernment and discernment thought process by which we separate real from the unreal.

But if we cannot do it because the mind interferes,

Then follow Patanjali yoga.

The highest yoga directly go into meditation,

But you cannot go into that.

Then practice asana,

Pranayama,

Mantra,

Larkundalini,

Et cetera,

Et cetera.

So it becomes a long journey.

So here he says it is a direct journey.

So let us start our practice of meditation.

Now based on this teaching today,

Eyes are closed.

In this meditation,

We are not doing anything and still we do something,

But there is no doer.

Doer,

That is the eyes are closed.

Naturally,

You close your eyes.

Closing the eyes is symbolic expression of what?

It is a symbolic expression of that now these sense organs are not running after any object and then you look at the body.

So when I say,

Look at the body,

Feel the body,

Become aware of the body,

Are you doing anything?

Awareness of anything is not doing anything.

Become aware of the body,

Feel the body,

Look at the body.

So when you simply look at the body in the field of awareness,

You find a sense of steadiness in the body.

And at the same time,

Eyes are gently closed.

And with that eyes closed,

You are looking inside.

You are looking inside.

Why you are looking inside?

So there are two ways of looking.

You are looking in the state of dispassion.

What is going to happen?

The body will become steady,

It will remain steady.

You are looking inside in the state of dispassion,

Discernment,

That is what the master is saying.

So seeker is of the highest order and the master is also of the highest order in this teaching.

I'm just passing on the knowledge to you.

I'm a catalyst.

So being comfortable looking at the neck joint.

Again,

You simply look at the neck joint.

You are aware.

In the field of awareness,

When you look at the neck joint,

The mind experiences sensation,

Being comfortable and steadiness.

What is behind?

Or if I say what is beyond,

Experience of sensation,

Being comfortable and steadiness?

There is only a space.

There is no two spaces.

The space is all pervading.

It is only one.

In fact,

We moved from the outer space to inner space and in between we found the mithya,

The falls that is creating a barrier,

Division,

Duality.

You see,

We are progressing.

I added one more aspect.

Move the mind on the shoulder joints,

Be there.

We're on the shoulder joints.

How can I know the,

There is no,

The sky is not blue.

I look at the blueness of the sky and I become aware of the knowledge inside.

Are we doing the same thing?

Yes.

And that doing is not a practice.

It is in the field of non-practice.

So looking at the shoulder joint,

Being there.

So mind says,

No,

Very good.

I experienced sensation,

Being comfortable and steadiness.

So you are aware of the both.

You are neither the mind.

You are not the sensation.

You are not the comfort.

You are not the steadiness.

It belongs to the body and the mind.

See that?

And then the mind says,

Okay.

Then it becomes aware of the space and the space is inside and outside.

There is no inside and outside.

It is one space.

Those who have been attending classes regularly,

They know how I tweak.

I think it is known as tweaking.

So become aware of all the joints in the body.

You see,

We started the journey from the joints of the body.

Then mental experience of sensation,

Being comfortable and steadiness.

At the same time,

There is an awareness that the body and the mind are constantly changing.

Whatever is changing can never be me.

So the mind settles into the space inside.

Naturally,

Why?

In the state of dispersion,

We have an intense aspiration to know who am I.

See that?

It is not enforced stillness.

It is natural stillness.

It is the stillness that we experience because of the state of dispersion and awareness.

What the state of dispersion in the intellect says,

Body is a matter,

Cannot move,

Hence it remains still.

What is enforced stillness?

The mind is trying to keep the body steady,

Holding it,

Forcing it,

Making an effort and still.

Do you see the difference?

One is primary practice,

The other is higher practice.

Now being carefree.

Where is carefree?

Again,

The dispersion in the intellect separates the seer from the seen.

And that I simplify by saying,

Thoughts are coming,

Thought continues to stay,

Thought leaves us feeling,

Images,

All the experiences taking place in the mind,

But I am not the mind.

No,

No,

But what to do?

The mind always asks.

Not to do,

Just become aware,

Who is the knower of all the thoughts,

All the experiences.

So the moment you introduce that there is a knower and there is a known,

That is what the being carefree is.

And that I use to simplify.

You see the ripples from the water on the surface of an ocean deep inside.

There are no ripples,

There are no waves.

So in our tradition,

One master says it is a deeper mind,

It is a witness mind.

Other master says you separate knower from the known.

Both are okay.

So what we are doing,

We are in fact doing nothing.

We are,

It is like standing across the road and watching the traffic,

Simple.

So you are simply sitting across the road or standing across the road watching the traffic.

Similarly,

You are watching the traffic of the thoughts in the mind.

And who is watching?

You are aware of that knower,

Seer,

That is the meaning of being carefree.

So let us move to the highest level of seeker and then we will go to another step.

So what we are doing for that,

Looking at the head and the neck.

Keep looking at the head and the neck.

Or if I say,

Move the mind on each and every cell of the head and the neck.

So when the mind naturally moves there,

You experience sensation,

Relaxation and stillness.

But that is an experience in the mind.

What is beyond that?

The space from where we started the journey.

The space,

The space cannot be divided.

Can I break the delusion of the body and the mind and the experiences?

Because everything is present in the space.

I'm tweaking again today.

That is it.

Right arm.

You see,

We start with an object.

What is object?

The right arm.

The mind is moving.

Then we move to the second object.

What is that?

The experience,

Sensation,

Relaxation and stillness.

And then move beyond in the space.

Just become aware if the space cannot be divided.

Let the mind go to that state,

That awareness.

Left arm.

Space.

Space.

But in between the space,

We experience sensation,

Relaxation and stillness.

I'm giving the practice as if I'm talking to you so that it does not appear to the mind as if we are practicing anything.

So the very practice becomes the non-practice.

You live and work in the field of awareness.

Chest in the valley,

The middle portion of the valley.

You're aware,

You see to it,

You feel it,

You experience sensation,

Relaxation and stillness.

And beyond that,

You add into that space.

Right leg.

Sensation,

Relaxation and stillness.

And what is beyond?

It is the space.

From where we started the journey in this space,

From the space,

Now we started the journey,

You can say,

Your mind can say,

And there you miss the point.

I can only recognize any object in the world with the space all around.

If there is no space,

How can I recognize any object?

Do you see that?

So when we live into the state of dispassion,

It becomes a play and a fun for us.

So look at the left leg.

It is confined.

The space is all around there.

Without the space,

I cannot recognize.

See,

Simple thing,

Not very complex.

How can I recognize my house and your house?

It is confined.

That is why it is an object.

I see you,

It is an object.

Why?

I see your body,

But still it is confined within the space.

Left leg,

And that leads us to experience of sensation,

Relaxation and stillness.

Casual walking,

You are walking.

As if you are doing a morning walk with me.

My guess,

Walking.

Especially in Saturday's journey,

I hate to say that it is a practice.

But we have to continue until we live into the same state all the time.

And sensation,

Relaxation,

Stillness in the left leg,

And the space.

We land it up into the space again.

The entire body from the top of the head to the toes.

So recognize the entire body as an object in the space.

What happens if we don't live into the state of dispassion?

Then the mind deeper inside says,

Okay,

Go ahead.

I am the body.

So the change must come within.

We normally try to change and show the change outside.

Nothing will happen.

I'm not saying all the masters are saying.

So become aware of the body.

And entire body.

You see,

Again I'm comparing.

You see the sky is blue.

You see the body is here in the state of dispassion.

You are aware that object,

It is an object and I see the space.

When you have a passion,

You are already attached to the body.

Who is creating an attachment?

The mind.

Intellect says good.

The master says,

Very good,

You are living.

Intilusion.

Simple.

And in that state,

You experience sensation,

Relaxation and stillness.

What is beyond that?

Again,

I'm stressing,

Tweaking.

In today's meditation,

There is only a space.

The mind returns to the body,

But after all,

But and if do not exist here.

When you are in the state of dispassion,

Then there is no water in the mirrors.

So there is no but and if.

You know,

I know,

Our mind starts questioning why?

Because it is attached.

So now we will go a little further in a different way.

We will find the knower,

The seer,

The experiencer.

So become aware of the world outside the body.

Is there a space outside the body?

Yes.

The space is confined,

Which I see.

Is confined,

Which I see is the room in which I am meditating?

Yes.

In that room,

We have lot of articles,

Objects,

Just become aware of them.

In this meditation,

We live into that state of dispassion.

We don't say leave the object.

So become aware of all the objects.

At the same time,

Become aware,

Who is the knower of all the objects?

For the sake of understanding,

I say it is purely the physical mind.

When the mind recognizes any object in the world outside,

Which is purely physical,

I refer it to as a physical mind.

Because mind in the sense organ merges together and recognizes an object.

Only the sense organs can have the name and the form and the shape and the color and the sound of the world.

Now let us go a little deeper.

Become aware of the body from the top to the toes.

We say it is a physical body.

But the mind in passion,

In attachment,

In clinging,

Says body is alive.

Can you show me any matter which is alive?

No matter is alive.

Matter means inert.

And inert means what?

Inert means that object which is inert cannot know itself and cannot know others.

It is not conscious,

But I feel the body is conscious.

It is because of the attachment.

Passion,

Clinging.

Can the iron bar can ever be hot and red?

Yes,

When the fire is there and fire and heat is there.

Otherwise the natural state of the iron bar is neither hot nor red.

So there's a hot and the red in the body is our consciousness.

So now I discover.

Let us go a little deeper.

So looking at the breath only.

Looking at the breath that is moving.

Who knows it?

It is the subtle mind.

The subtle mind.

So you see that the quality of a knower has changed.

The way we see the object of his body of one and the way we see the other person is loving me.

For example,

A different than our awareness is on the expression.

Same way subtle mind is looking at the breath.

Now what is deeper than the breath?

All of our experiences in the mind.

In terms of the thoughts,

Feelings,

Pain,

Pleasure,

Duality,

Conflict,

Everything,

Any experiences happening in the mind.

So it is,

Who knows that?

It is the subtler mind.

You see that,

You know,

I categorize for the sake of understanding.

Physical mind with reference to the world.

Physical mind with reference to the body.

Physical subtle mind with reference to the breath.

Subtler mind with reference to all the experiences taking place in the mind.

One thing you should be clear,

Any experience,

Knowledge,

Either of the pain and the pleasure,

Duality and the conflict happens in the mind.

And who recognizes that there is a subtler mind?

For the sake of understanding,

I'm using this word so that you can go deeper.

So just look at it.

And what is,

Let us move deeper and find out what is behind all these thoughts and experiences.

You do it by awareness and knowledge.

Let us find out the sky is not blue.

I have seen the blueness of the sky.

Exactly the same thing.

So either what happens,

We find the sky.

So what is behind all these thoughts and feelings and sensations?

The mind cannot enter into that state.

So we say it is an objectless.

I see the blankness.

I see the emptiness.

So when the knower is aware,

That's emptiness.

This is what people talk a lot about it,

Choiceless awareness.

In the state of delusion,

Or which I explained you the three types.

One is truth,

Other is untruth,

And the third is in between.

So where there is a change,

Where there are two,

There is bound to be a delusion.

Means what?

That appears true,

But not true.

But when there is nothingness,

So there is a choice.

Choiceless awareness.

Simple,

Simplified way.

Now,

With that understanding,

The intellect is… It is living into that state of emptiness with clarity and understanding.

So even if some thought appears and disappears,

It does not make a difference to my state.

You see,

When that happens,

That you live into that state.

Reflected.

So whatever appears as dual division is a reflected image.

And we are… Can you… shanti shanti aaam shanti shanti shanti bring your mind on the right hand your mind on the left hand lift your both the palms place it on your eyes open the eyes inside know your experiences and bring the hands down we did nothing or we can say still we did something how are you David and Jerry?

I was asking first but it takes a minute to wake up it was very,

It was kind of like different levels of letting go both physically and mentally sure that was occurring more clarity in terms of clean mind was present so by the end of it it was like everything was blank there was no thought there was no feeling there was no concept of time not think of this various stages letting go that I really beautiful that is why master says we have to study we have to be regular so because of the regular practice we move into that it's a beautiful how are you Jerry?

I'm good it was very quiet just steady just a lot of space and no real concept of time how are you Anne?

You have to unmute I see your lips moving I feel good I stayed with it all the time and I found there were lots of concepts you brought up which is good yeah one has to be regular to pick up these concepts but one thing we should be very clear in the Eastern wisdom we start with a concept to remove the delusion of the mind and once the delusion is removed throw all the concepts into the garbage because the real self is not a concept it is a reality do you see in the science cannot throw any concept into garbage because the application will become none that is the biggest difference do you understand science cannot get away with the concept and the finest example is that if I say your finest example that was proved wrong which philosopher who says I think therefore I am?

No I am therefore I think so that I am is not a concept but we have to use concept that is how the mind and the intellect works how are you Terry?

Very interesting very good there were a lot of concepts and I went very far into that I started wondering about each thing like I was about the every cell if you go in every cell in every cell there won't be any of this stuff then I got a question about that and then I was thinking that also if the space is one then we don't exist only yeah only it is only one thing that is why we exist because I recognize that one thing okay yeah I guess it is I was wondering why does everybody look different from everybody else why don't we all look the same?

Yes yes yes yes so who says that we look different?

Well like individuals like who says we who says we look individual?

Like I have a friend that was an identical twin yeah she is going too far today she is very happy Terry you are very happy no we are not talking of identical in the twins we are questioning the authority of that who question who says there are we are looking different who says we are looking different?

Mind how the mind says we are looking different?

Through the sense organs can the sense organs see the reality the answer is no drop it can the mind find the reality no drop the mind so when you drop the mind you drop the sense organ you drop the different color shape sizes height weight of the different individual we don't even say two people are identical we say they are not two there is only one and because you recognize that one is existence consciousness and bliss we will take up the 20th verse there is something more how are you Sam?

Very good quite interesting I am really good as well I think the layers were good again today you know with the again the body check escaping the physical part of the mind and focusing on the breath and as I mentioned I guess a few times my experience when I am at the deepest level is that I am not paying attention to my breath anymore because it is so effortless with in and out of my body and I kind of feel more one with the whatever space is outside and so I guess that kind of goes to what you were talking about but I guess I noticed the body first and then the breath and then you know for the rest of it and where it felt so effortless is when I am not even paying attention to my breath anymore effortless and calmness was there this calmness steadiness yes that is good that is the importance of doing regular practice beautiful Sam how are you Vaibhav?

It was very calm now I can be settled inside myself and then it will be like very smooth thoughtless thought state and then it is very calm good good good very good that is a good state how are you Ashok?

It is very peaceful and blissful peaceful and blissful that is good that is good now we have to ask the last question to ourselves that we have achieved we have experienced we have known that state are we living into that state 24 by 7 that is our goal you see Sam that is our goal so it means we keep our mind or we maintain that awareness of our destination that can I live into that state so what is what will happen?

Now just after meditation you remind the mind that is your goal what is going to happen the mind will definitely run after the objects of attachment you know someone says you know I had a good friend in New Jersey so I used to give him meditation so after the meditation he never noticed I am just talking I am also not telling the name so he said he used to tell me Acharya he has to do with something with the Maatgis and knows it so anyhow so Acharya just after the meditation before telling me about his experiences I know Acharya you love coffee can I have a cup of coffee it means in your entire meditation that impression continued do you understand what I am saying?

That impression continued so check after the meditation is the mind moving he was saying out of love and respect but in meditation we have nothing to do with these two things there is nothing out of love and respect it is I am looking at the state so he knows that what I love what I cherish to eat and then he used to cook himself no no so you have to check just after meditation do you live into that same as Sam was explaining I live into that state so when you continue to live into that state you recognize whether the mind is going up and the mind is going down the mind is going into the passion or mind is moving ahead or mind is going deeper that will take you deeper into that state so that is all for today any questions?