Cosmically Candid Ep. 2 - Healing Generational Karma

Healing Generational Karma, Ouija, and The Fortuitous Other
In this powerful episode, Andrea and Erika discuss the pathway that will heal past and future generations from inherited generational karma. They go deep to share about their own lineage, Ouija board messages from deceased loved ones, and what it takes to become the karmic pattern interrupt.
Dedicated to: Erika's father, Pokman Chong

Transcript

This is Erika Su.

I'm an intuitive and spiritual healer.

And this is Andrea Edwards.

I am a hypnotherapist and psychic medium.

And together,

We are Cosmically Candid.

Hi,

Erika.

Hi,

Andrea.

So amazing to talk to you today.

Yes,

So amazing.

Welcome to our episode on healing generational karma.

Yes.

And I wanted to first start by just recapping our first episode and honoring us,

Erika,

As we completed it.

And I wanted to share with our listeners that we are operating from a new way of doing things,

Let's just say.

And we spoke about our meeting that we had for our episode,

And I wanted to just share that that was only one meeting.

We only had one meeting to kick off our podcast.

And our only second meeting,

We spent the whole time sort of catching up on all the fascinating things that were happening in our worlds.

And at the very end,

Decided to play with this app for podcasters.

And that was us playing around.

And it ended up being our first episode.

So coming from a recovering perfectionist and stepping into this world where we are allowing spirit to guide us is just been so incredible for me.

And I just wanted to acknowledge our success.

Yay,

I'm so,

So happy.

And the word rapture is coming into mind again.

And it's the sense that we relinquish control of that perfectionist part of ourselves that want to have all of our I's dotted and our T's crossed before we start something and to truly dive into what spirit is guiding us to dive into and to feel the ease and grace and flow and the rewards of just feeling lit up and alive and excited that come with relinquishing that control.

And so I love how our connection and this podcast and all of the wonderful experiences that we shared together have that theme of ease of us surrendering to the flow of things and this new way,

Which we like to call the 4D way that it's no longer that difficult,

Striving,

Planning,

Trying so hard to reach for what we want,

But to simply surrender to it and to recognize that it's here in this moment.

Absolutely,

Erica.

Absolutely.

Yes.

So,

So amazing.

It feels so good.

It feels so good to give up that effort,

The efforting.

And that's what we're,

You know,

That's our new reality now is ease and flow.

Yes.

I just want so much.

Yes.

I wanted to share that with everyone.

So,

Yes.

So onto our new topic.

Yes.

It's a big one.

It's a really big one.

And you were inspired through a dream.

So would you like to share your inspiration for this?

Yes.

So I had a dream a few days ago and it was a dream where we were in our childhood home.

And there were,

There was this giant fish tank with these big,

Huge goldfish in there.

And we were having a family gathering like we often did in this orange childhood home that we grew up in.

And uncles and cousins and my mom and dad,

We were all there.

And I got into an argument with one of my uncles because he was not approving of the way I was feeding the fish.

And in real life,

I would have never stood my ground to this particular uncle.

But in my dream,

I felt this rage coming over me.

And I told him,

If you're not going to respect me,

Then get out of my house.

And I was just angry and standing up for myself.

And in the dream,

My mom did not stand up for me.

And she was taking his side.

And it made me extremely,

Extremely angry.

And I just felt this rage boiling inside of me.

And I went to go pack my bags and just leave the house because I just couldn't handle it anymore.

And I woke up.

And I've learned through our spiritual classes that we take together that dreams are truly meaningful.

And it is our subconscious's way of providing messages that help us to see things with more clarity so that we can heal them,

We can release them,

We can understand ourselves better.

And so instead of just brushing it off as this crazy dream,

I really dove deep into it.

I dove deep into it using my intuition and just connecting with my higher self to see,

Hey,

What is my subconscious wanting me to know here.

And it did give me this flashback to a memory I had in real life after my dad passed away where I got into a huge argument with my stepdad and that my mom was siding with him and essentially kicked me out of the house,

My childhood house.

So it was super painful.

And I think that I had this pent up rage inside of me from that incident that I just never was able to express.

And I mean,

Underlying rage,

I feel is great,

Great pain.

So underlying the rage is this great,

Great pain.

And I was seeing that there needs to be some healing around this.

I need to see a more expanded perspective so that I can forgive my mom,

That I can release this and move forward.

Because what I'm starting to notice is that as we are on this spiritual awakening and ascension path,

And that we are taking steps along this path to truly embody our full power,

The things that we're carrying,

Such as this kind of pain,

This kind of rage,

This kind of resentment,

Automatically are coming to the surface to be healed.

Because as we move fully into this 4D world of just beauty and connectedness and flow and ease and standing in our power,

There's no space to carry this any longer.

And we must continue to create space for the new.

So I saw this as a blessing that I'm seeing this.

And then what I was guided to,

As I was reflecting on this dream was that the generational karma,

And I think some people even call it generational curses,

Along my dad's family line,

Was being spotlighted and brought into focus.

And so this is very difficult for me to share,

Even though I think I have shared it,

It is a part of my life story.

But when I was 25,

My dad,

He died by suicide.

And he was an alcoholic.

And he,

I believe that he heard voices toward the end of his life that were kind of convincing him that it would be better for him to not be here on this earth,

That he's a burden to the family,

That he's a failure,

And all of these things.

And as I was reflecting on the stream,

I was being shown how this,

It's almost like this dark entity,

This dark spirit,

These voices,

They have run through generations of my dad's side of the family,

Because suicide is a very prevalent theme in my family,

And including his mother,

His sister,

His nieces,

I mean,

So many people have,

Have succumbed to this dark energy.

And I could see that after his passing,

That that dark energy had passed on to us to his family,

And that I was carrying it for sure.

And,

And I was firsthand experiencing what he had experienced,

The voices and the trying to convince me that it's better for me not to be alive in this world that I'm being a burden by being so emotional about my dad passing,

And that I was just a shell of myself,

And why did it matter anymore,

Nobody would care,

Or they would at least care,

But get over it.

And all of these voices trying to convince me,

And I realized that my family was all struggling so,

So badly from my dad's passing,

And then him passing on this pain onto us.

And there was also this kind of stigma around suicide that we were feeling.

And so we're,

We're carrying some sort of shame.

And so I was shown that my mom was struggling just the same,

That her life was turned upside down,

Because that incident happened not long after my dad passed away.

And I could see that she was struggling so badly.

And that all this time,

I had this limited viewpoint of she's my mom.

And I'm her daughter,

And she didn't stick up for me.

Right.

And she took somebody else's side who we barely know.

And I like,

Essentially she betrayed me.

That was the story.

Yes,

Exactly.

Yeah,

That I was carrying.

And it expanded the perspective.

Yeah,

Go ahead.

I was gonna say just in that moment,

You had a shift in perspective,

Right?

Yes,

I had a massive shift in perspective,

Where I could see that she was struggling just the same as me,

And that I started to have this compassion for her,

Because she was just trying to survive and clear,

Clear this dark entity from her as well.

And,

And the the happy ending is that many years later,

We all,

We all found a way through it into the light and into thriving and into finding a life that is obviously different now that my dad is not here.

Right.

And it has felt a bit scattered and broken up.

But at the same time,

I see that we individually have found our power,

Our light.

And it's interesting,

Because the ancestral information has been really flowing in for me,

And connecting with my mom's side of the family.

And my mom is really a really special specimen,

I would say.

She descends from a line of royalty on both sides of her family in Korea.

And something I recently discovered is that on my grandma's side,

Which I didn't know,

But that my grandma's side of the family descended from this Indian queen and this Korean king who kind of had this spiritual union.

And so I felt as though we were able to find the light we were able to clear this dark entity and this ancestral karma that because my dad wasn't able to resolve it,

It got passed down,

Right?

If we're not able to resolve it,

Yeah,

It gets passed down to future generations,

Right?

Absolutely.

That the light of my mom's ancestry and the power of her like royal family background,

Which interest,

Interestingly,

My dad was so proud of,

He would,

He would say all the time,

Your mom is from a royal family,

And it matters now.

And I realized it helped us through that bloodline,

That strength in in that royal bloodline helped us to find the light.

Erica,

This is such an incredible story.

Incredible.

And I do like to call Erica,

My queen Erica.

Oh,

Yes.

And it's such an incredible story.

And so indicative of the light sort of overshadowing the darkness and just hearing it again.

I've heard your story,

The story before,

But hearing it,

And realizing the grip that suicide and how many people in your family have succumbed to it.

It feels deeper,

Right?

There's something so deep that is absolutely being sort of enmeshed in your family,

In your dad's side,

At least,

Right?

So for so many people,

It feels like in your dad's side,

At least,

Right?

So for so many people to have succumbed to it,

It's it's definitely this energy that is moves through and passes on.

And just like you say,

If it's not stopped,

It will just continue to go.

And the karma,

The karmic healing we're talking about,

Also,

Once we stop and interrupt this energetic flow,

That you're we're actually healing backwards to our ancestors are able to be healed,

As well as future generations to come.

Yes,

That is the powerful part.

And I think I,

This is the part where I think I want to incorporate in our mediumship class.

And yes,

And the Ouija board.

Yes,

Let's talk about the Ouija board.

Oh my gosh.

Okay,

You and I are not,

We're not new to mediumship.

Correct.

It's been a part of our lives for a very long time.

But when Lori mentioned that we're going to be working with the Ouija board,

I turned into that scared little girl with like,

Like all the horror films compiled in my body thinking like,

Oh,

My God,

What is gonna happen?

Right?

I don't know what your reaction was.

It was the same complete fear,

Terror,

Like Ouija board,

I would never even look at one I didn't even know what they look like.

I would I would never have thought to have opened one played with one done any of that.

I was so afraid my whole life of them.

So we guess when our teacher said that we were going to be working with the Ouija board,

It,

It really was frightening for me.

And then she proceeded to one by one,

Call us up and sit with her with the Ouija board.

And I happened to be the first one.

So yeah,

That was interesting.

But yes,

So we Erica and I have a new found appreciation and complete respect for the Ouija board.

Our teacher was very clear that this is an instrument to be used only in how shall I say like a complete high vibrational setting.

And she didn't I think Eric and I both afterwards were like,

Oh,

We're a little intrigued by this Ouija board,

But our teacher did not was recommend or suggesting that we you know,

Go out and get one and start playing with it.

It was very,

It's a very sacred tool for her and very respected.

So that's what I learned about the Ouija board.

Would you agree Erica?

Yes.

And that kind of made me feel a lot more comforted and a lot more empowered.

I don't know if I am ready to ever try it on my own yet.

But but just the experience with it was something else because mediumship is already such an incredible modality of healing,

Of just spiritual connection and realizing that life does go on after physical death.

And that relationships can evolve,

Even after somebody passes away,

Like it has with my dad.

Yeah,

So mediumship is already so incredible.

But the Ouija board added this additional clarity because it came through word for word.

What letter by letter,

Letter by letter,

Letter by letter,

Like a telegraph.

Right?

Yes.

And so it preserved the spirit and the energy of the deceased loved one that was coming through in such an incredible way that for me,

It touched me,

Touched my heart so deeply.

It was so powerful,

All of the messages.

And what was fascinating is to hear our small group that we were pretty intimate with,

And to hear each person's message that was so unique to them.

I feel like everybody cried,

Everyone getting these messages could relate and understand exactly what their specific message was holding.

And it was so profound.

It really,

Truly was such a such a powerful form of communication.

Yes.

And so we have our messages and would you do would you like to read the message that you received?

Yes.

Well,

I actually think that you should go first since we're on your family.

And so it would tie in with yours.

Okay,

I'm happy.

Yeah.

Okay,

I'll read mine first.

It was my dad coming through.

And so he said,

I could not miss this opportunity as I have missed so many others.

I still visit not like before,

Because you let go.

Best for us.

Better now that you are better.

I am so sorry,

And have to work to forgive myself.

And at that point,

The teacher asked,

Do you have any questions?

And I said,

Can you ask who this is?

And he said,

Need you ask?

Which is interesting,

Because just that day,

You had just connected with him so deeply as well.

Right.

I did.

I did.

And so he was like,

Are you serious?

Girl,

It's your dad.

So I said,

Is it you dad?

And he said,

Yes.

And he said,

Keep your spirit.

I let mine fade.

Fading brings trouble.

I should not have left you.

But now you will not leave girls.

Your career is important.

I am so proud.

Now only love matters.

Wow,

Erica,

Hearing that again.

It's so powerful.

Yeah,

Every word matters.

Every word.

So you will not leave girls.

Yeah,

He sees that I have done my healing.

I'm continuing to do my healing.

And he is acknowledging I feel in that sentence,

I should not have left you.

But now you will not leave girls that I am the pattern interrupt for our family,

And that I'm not going to be perpetuating or succumbing to this dark energy anymore.

It is such a this message is just mind blowing.

It was mind blowing.

Hearing it come through and being there and feeling the presence of your dad and his his joy his he's so proud of you,

Erica,

Just the pride that the relief I want to just use the word relief that he can feel now.

It's remarkable.

Oh,

Thank you.

Thank you for seeing that and for receiving that.

I mean,

I can feel his love coming through his words.

And I,

I would like to let him know that I forgive him and I release him of any resentment or sense of betrayal or abandonment because now that I can see fully,

You know what he was contending with.

I can release him.

And I hope that that helps him to forgive himself.

Because like he says,

Now only love matters.

And those four words have really taken root in our consciousness now only love matters.

And it's he's such a wise,

Wise being.

And I see that now and I see that he couldn't find the opportunity to express this part of him when he was here on earth.

But that it was always a part of them that loved animals so much and he loved music so much and all of these beautiful things.

But he was always feeling like he had to provide for the family and hold so much responsibility on his shoulders that he never had the opportunity to express who he truly was.

And I see that now he can and that gives me so much comfort and so much joy.

And like you say,

I mean,

This is so important.

And this is something that I feel like you and I are seeing on such a different level now that the people,

You know,

People there,

There is the spirit underneath in all of us that gets clouded and drowned out by our ways to cope in life.

And that's a perfect example with him that,

You know,

You know who he was and the tragedy that he was not able to live who he was in this lifetime.

Yes,

It was an absolute tragedy.

But at the same time,

I feel that myself stepping into my power and stepping into all the things that I truly am is going to heal him as well.

Yeah,

That gives me comfort.

Yes,

Absolutely.

Oh my gosh,

Erica,

Thank you so much for sharing this incredible story of your lineage on both sides,

On both sides.

And that was one of the miraculous learnings that you shared with me when you learned about your grandmother's lineage on both of both sides of her family.

And that was an amazing discovery that you recently learned of.

So it's just it's it to hear your story to know your story,

To feel it.

I feel like I know these people.

And it's,

It's just an incredible story.

So thank you so much for sharing it.

Oh,

You're so welcome.

And thank you for giving me the space to share it.

My pleasure.

So yes,

I,

I would like to share about my karmic ancestral karmic.

What are we calling it karmic?

Patterning and ancestral karma?

Yes,

Generational karma,

Generational karma.

I've also been aware of a term called vibrational inheritance.

And it's interesting,

Unlike your family in my family,

I have very similar lines on each side.

So I feel as if I were the recipient of like a double whammy situation.

I have always carried a sense of shame that I could not understand where it came from.

Why I have felt it.

I have always been a person who,

You know,

It does the right thing is the good girl.

And I believe now and looking back that that was actually to counter balance the shame that resides deep within me.

And shame comes down both sides of my family.

So and I should say,

Even though there has been this part of me that houses shame.

There's been a little tiny,

Untouchable speck inside of No,

Andrea,

No,

Don't believe it.

No,

You are worthy.

And so there's been this polarity within that I've just always lived with.

And however,

I've,

I have the the shame voice,

Shall we say,

Was has always been stronger.

And that's what I have listened to.

And so I've lived my life with feelings of unworthiness.

So that's my story of where I'm coming from.

And I would love to share my Ouija board message that is very profound as well.

So my message reads this lower means fortuitous death.

Now,

If you don't think I was scared about the Ouija board,

And I was the first one.

And this is my first line of mine.

Oh,

Yes,

I was about shaking at this point.

This is where I think I switched seats from my individual seat to sit on the couch in between two people because I was like,

Whoa,

What's happening?

Erica needed some comfort.

And I was just beyond.

Okay,

So lower means fortuitous death.

We are father's cousin,

Andrea's second cousin.

Mental illness is not hereditary.

But circumstances among family stays same.

Joseph and more.

A line of lack of love,

Emotional retard,

And addiction to ease symptomatic pain.

We want to heal our unrealized potential.

When you open the door to gifts of spirit.

Here we all are ready for healing through other and you.

You can do what we never knew.

Thank you,

Fortuitous other.

Wow.

Yes.

So this message,

This message,

Hearing it,

I understood so much on such a deeper level about my father's lineage.

And actually not just my father's lineage,

I can see that it's also speaking of my mother's side of her family as well.

But,

But this in particular is really talking about my father's side.

I,

This is where this is validation that they also get the healing,

Where it says we want to heal our unrealized potential.

And we are all ready for healing through other and you.

You can do what we never knew.

So this is a call to action for me to vanquish this ancestral karma that has run through my dad's side of the family.

Wow.

It's extremely powerful.

How specific and clear it is.

Yes.

That it's really you that they can heal.

Yes.

And the word fortuitous,

How they used it twice,

Meaning two different things.

At the very beginning,

Lower means fortuitous death,

Which they're using in sort of this accidental way.

And at the end,

They're saying thank you,

Fortuitous other,

Which is lucky.

They're,

They're meaning it in the lucky sense.

It's just fascinating.

It's extremely fascinating.

And every word matters.

And it's magical.

And I feel like we have that word connection.

We're so connected with words that it means something extra to us,

You know?

Yes.

And yeah,

That fortuitous word.

And that that's how it comes into our consciousness.

Something gets seeded like that.

Right?

Yeah,

It begins to grow.

And we start to notice it.

Yes.

And there's a power.

It's a power.

We are feeling the power of these words.

Like rapture.

Rapture has just come into our,

Our,

Our,

Our consciousness,

Right?

Our consciousness,

And we can feel the words so deeply.

It's just so fascinating.

Yes.

So this,

My,

This message is speaking of,

On my dad's side,

And I would like to just also share for me that this is being sensitive to family and sharing,

Sharing what we're,

What you just shared,

And what I'm about to share is so deeply personal.

And in no way is this meant to be disrespectful for either of our families sharing this.

But we feel so strongly that this is every family has this and their or their flavor of it.

And that in speaking of it,

We're,

We're helping to heal it,

We are helping to stop this.

And so with that,

I just wanted to share that the message I got speaks of in what it's actually in both sides of my family,

But this was speaking in my dad's side of this pain,

This underlying pain that is around mental issues.

And my,

My grandfather,

And my aunt,

My dad's sister,

Both had dementia.

My grandfather was,

Let's just say,

Pretty much debilitated socially.

And he became sort of a recluse in his later years.

So we've got a line of social anxiety,

I would say.

There has been over consumption and excessive use of alcohol.

And the mental issues as well.

And that's my,

You know,

That's actually it's on both sides of my family.

My mom's brother,

My uncle had schizophrenia.

My brother passed from cancer.

And I do believe that there were,

I've actually been told through mediums that he,

He,

It was his way out.

That the pain that he felt,

And sort of the hopelessness to be able to cope in life was too much.

And I do believe that there is an energy that has run through our family that causes such extreme anguish and suffering that the two ways out modeled by my parents were either alcohol to numb the feelings or burying your feelings and not feeling them.

And what I am coming to learn is more of an understanding why I feel that my heart is frozen.

And how difficult it is for me to access feelings.

I rarely cry.

I now I have done a lot of healing.

And so I have in recent years,

I should say so I have had I have had big releases of emotions.

But accessing my feelings is not easy.

And so this is my new found path that I am taking now is practicing accessing my feelings on a deeper level through meditation.

And because I do believe that to,

To swing the opposite way of the pendulum is that is through feeling my feelings.

And,

And that's,

That's my,

My lineage,

And this karma that I am here to break,

Not only for my kids,

And my nieces and nephew,

And all of the unborn children that will be coming through them,

But also back to my call of action from my message from the Ouija board of the my ancestors in spirit who are wanting to be healed as well.

Wow,

Incredible.

Thank you for sharing.

I know it's not easy.

And I know that we want to respect our family.

But at the end of the day,

This is such powerful information and wisdom that I feel almost everybody on earth has inherited some sort of ancestral karma that is not theirs.

Yes,

That they're struggling with.

And so many are do not feel as though there is any path out of it.

Yes.

And so it keeps getting cycled and passed down and passed down.

So I want to take a moment to honor you for sharing,

For sharing about your family and about your feelings.

And so would you say that the guidance is showing you the way for you to heal this is for you to access your feelings?

Absolutely.

And that just came to me yesterday,

Erica,

When we briefly,

Briefly talked about this,

You,

Your dream,

We had a quick conversation about the dream and that this topic was coming through and,

And,

And I shared that I literally had the day before done a meditation about my feelings and right now,

This is all just put all of the pieces together for me.

Yes,

About the feelings.

Wow,

Because from even from your message,

It's indicating that there was a lot of pushing down the feelings to cope.

Right?

Yes.

Yes.

Yes.

It said to ease symptomatic pain.

Hmm.

Yes.

And you're the brave warrior who is coming to the forefront to interrupt this pattern once and for all and say,

No,

I'm going to feel everything.

Because that's the path.

Yes,

Exactly.

Yes,

I am the fortuitous other.

You are the fortuitous other.

By fortuitous other I feel like they're saying we're so lucky to have you as part of our family to to take on such a gargantuan task of healing generations and generations of this patterning this karma.

Well,

Both of us are fortuitous.

Erica,

Both of us are fortuitous.

And it's interesting because okay,

So I shared this story about my mom and it wasn't like the happiest,

Brightest story.

But what I can say is that throughout my spiritual development and growth,

And me learning how to embrace my self worth and love myself,

My relationship with my mom has healed on quantum levels that I honestly wasn't sure was ever possible to the point where our connection is so different now and she can see me she understands me.

And she even said to me the other day,

Erica,

I'm so proud of the work you're doing because you're healing all of the pain in your dad's family.

She said that and I was like,

What?

What is this,

But she is starting to see it too.

And so we've come definitely like 180 here.

And it's funny because when I've only met I,

Our listeners should know that I have known you just under a year.

It's not very long.

And you've mentioned your mom.

I remember you would talk about her and how what a wonderful conversation you had.

And then one day,

You told me that it wasn't always that way.

And so I was surprised to learn that,

That it wasn't always that way.

I just thought that everything was wonderful like it is now.

Isn't that interesting?

Yeah,

It is interesting.

I mean,

I think a lot of people have a hard time imagining that it wasn't always that way.

It wasn't always Rosie.

And I think she's always had such a deep love for me,

But it has required me to forgive and release and heal a lot of the past to be able to create a pathway to even be able to receive that love,

Which I realize now that it's always been there.

But through defensive mechanisms and through my own stories,

My own narrative,

I've blocked that love out.

And now that it's being received,

I feel like for her,

She can be more confident in that connection.

And so we are connecting on a deeper level.

And we I can say confidently,

Like,

We truly love each other and whatever happened after my dad passed away,

And the disappointments that we might have felt toward each other,

Like it has all dissipated,

Because I think we have come to this understanding that it was such a difficult period in our lives,

And everyone was doing what they could do to survive.

And so that's kind of coming into focus that all encompassing forgiveness is is required in healing generational karma,

As well.

Yes.

And another component is stepping into our full power.

Yes,

Absolutely.

Absolutely.

Yes.

It takes it takes stepping into the full power to vanquish this ancestral karma.

Yes,

Because I can see that the ancestral karma and whatever dark spirits or dark energy runs through the family line is essentially trying to keep us from stepping into our full power.

So that is that act of rebellion against that force,

Right?

This absolute act of rebellion and standing up to it and saying,

No,

I remember who I am.

I will never forget again.

And I know exactly who I am.

I know how powerful I am.

Yes.

And in that moment,

It blazes that energy blasts it away.

Yes,

Erica.

Absolutely.

Yeah.

And,

And noticing it and bringing it to light,

Talking about it,

Sharing sharing every little thing helps.

Yes,

Having a circle of like minded people who you can share these revelations with these realizations with,

And anchoring in this truth,

People who can see your power,

Who want to nurture it,

And to help it to grow.

And to help it to be sustained,

Like I think that is so important.

And then the forgiveness component of it,

My goodness,

You know,

We have parents,

Oftentimes,

Who have done a lot to hurt us.

And we have held on to resentment,

And yeah,

Anger,

And all of those and sadness and betrayal and abandonment for so long.

And even as I work with some of my clients who are older,

They have been holding on to the sense of pain and trauma for so long.

And I am being shown that the key to releasing it,

To relieving yourself of it is forgiveness.

Forgiveness.

Forgiveness.

Yes,

Absolutely.

Forgiveness.

100% forgiveness.

And it can happen in an instant.

Flip of a switch.

Flip of a switch.

You can let it go.

You can just let it go.

Yes.

And it releases that person from whatever guilt and shame that they are holding on to for what what they might have done to hurt you.

It releases you so that you're not reliving that and having to live under the shadow of that any longer.

So it frees both parties.

And then it creates a pathway of a new relationship between whoever you've forgiven.

And it heals them,

It heals you.

I mean,

I have always heard that it's so important to forgive,

But I am now experiencing firsthand what it truly means and the power that it truly holds.

And the magic that results once it's done.

Absolute magic.

Yes.

Oh,

Erica,

What a talk.

What a talk we just had,

Right?

Yes.

Yes.

I'm so thankful that we had this opportunity to share.

And I hope for our listeners who might be contending with similar issues coming up.

First of all,

Just the assurance that it means you're on your path of growing and you're on the right path.

If this is coming up for you right now,

Some form of needing to forgive your parents or somebody who has hurt you,

Some form of generational karma coming into the spotlight,

That it's a sign you're growing and that there's no space to hold this while you're walking into this new,

Beautiful reality.

So it's time to release it.

So even though it feels heavy and going through these emotions can be scary because it feels like you're reliving them and your ego might say,

Hey,

Why are you doing this to yourself?

You can just stuff it away and pretend like it doesn't exist and keep moving forward,

Right?

Yes.

But it never works that way because it is like this festering infection inside of you.

And just because you pretend like it's not there doesn't mean that it's not continuing to proliferate inside of you.

Exactly.

Exactly.

And I just also want to share that.

Like me with the shame,

If there are feelings that you can't relate to or understand why you have,

That that is,

That's what we're talking about here.

It isn't yours.

It's outside of you that has been passed on.

Yes.

And that there's a path that you can find to clear it.

Yes.

You're not,

You're not subjected to it.

And you're,

It's not a hopeless situation.

There's always hope.

There's always a way that you can clear it.

And that if you're even tuning into the possibility of clearing it,

Chances are you are that pattern interrupt in your family.

Yes.

Yes.

Right?

Exactly.

Exactly.

Oh,

Yes.

So amazing.

Amazing.

And thank you,

Erica,

For,

For the inspiration.

Thank you to your dream and the inspiration for this episode.

It is going to serve many people.

Thank you to my spirit guides and for my subconscious.

Yes,

I'm so grateful.

As am I.

Well,

So until next time.

Wonderful.

Thank you.

Goodbye,

Everybody.

Bye,

Erica.

Bye,

Andrea.