Examining Irrational Fears - Weekly Energy Boost

Some fears are illogical. These unexplainable and paralyzing fears can be the source of serious mental and emotional anxiety. We explore what’s behind our deepest fears and share a spiritual approach to break their hold on our lives with a special guest, Dr. Rachel Glik EdD, LPC. Episode 2 of 3 on fear. Original airdate: 10/26/20

Transcript

Good morning,

Everyone.

Good evening,

Good afternoon,

Wherever you are,

And welcome to this week's Weekly Energy Boost.

My name is Ellie Sheva.

I'm here this morning with David,

And we are all so excited to introduce in a moment this week's special guest.

For those of you that are joining us for the first time,

The Weekly Energy Boost,

Which will be focusing this week on extreme,

Irrational,

And anxiety-causing fears.

We get together every Monday morning live here on Facebook,

But we're also on all the platforms in which you find your podcasts.

We share with you the most practical and powerful wisdom according to the teachings of Kabbalah,

Which is an ancient universal technology that teaches us how to get the most out of our lives.

We do that in a way like a spiritual forecast.

You may find this week or this month,

Actually this month we're focusing on the topic of fear because it is a month in which the worst-case scenarios plague us.

It's not a coincidence that there is so much turmoil in the world right now and so much uncertainty and confusion.

Our goal here is to provide you with the most practical and powerful wisdom and tools so that you can navigate not only this week or this month,

But anytime you find yourself in a situation where you are caught off guard by your fears and anxiety.

That's why today we are sharing the show,

Sharing the mic this week with Dr.

Rachel Glick,

Who is a long-time Kabbalah student and spiritual counselor.

I'll let her introduce herself in a moment,

But she is a good friend and also on the side teaches Kabbalah.

She has a wealth of perspective and experience on guiding people as they navigate the rocky terrain of paralyzing fears and anxiety.

Rachel,

Welcome.

Thank you.

I'm so excited to be here.

Rachel is actually in St.

Louis,

So we're zooming her in.

Can you tell us a little bit about what you do and maybe give some context to why we chose you to come in to talk this morning?

What I do for my main professional job is I'm a marriage counselor and individual counselor with a special emphasis on a gentle spiritual focus.

I work with people.

They reach out often because of anxieties quite honestly,

Or they reach out because they're having troubles in their marriage or all sorts of different self-esteem issues.

But I have found that after starting to study Kabbalah around 16 years ago,

That my capacity to help people by blending the empowering wisdom of Kabbalah along with what we know about healing and trauma and self-esteem and relationships,

That that is a wonderful blend that I have found people can move along in their journey more deeply and they also move along in their process more quickly.

For those of us that may be listening and not even sure if what we're talking about today is relevant for them,

And by the way,

You may be listening and saying,

This is not my issue,

But you know people who have challenges in this area and you can share what you're hearing in the show from them.

You can share the show with them directly.

What is anxiety really,

Rachel?

Well,

I like to think about anxiety from kind of holistically.

It's an experience in the body.

Anxiety creates,

It's typically like tension in the chest,

Tightness in the shoulders.

It is a constricting feeling.

It's often a pit in the stomach.

And so it's a very unpleasant feeling to be in your body when you're in the experience of anxiety.

And anxiety also affects the way we think.

So it's also very fear-based,

You know,

Thinking the worst kind of belief system in terms of that's how we know we're in a state of anxiety is when we examine where our thoughts are.

And it's often just,

It can be,

There's many different kinds of anxiety.

So there's generalized,

There's,

That would be just a general day-to-day worry that we're just,

Whatever it is we're experiencing that even like having a project do creates just a really disruptive experience of enjoying one's life because you know you have this project.

And then there's social anxiety,

Which means you have an intense fear of being rejected or intense fear of being embarrassed or feel foolish.

And so it really robs us of our experience viscerally of enjoying and our lives.

What was that anxiety called?

What was the second one called?

Social anxiety.

Social.

Some people call it social phobia,

But it's now called social anxiety disorder when you have an intense,

There's a new term even for just an incredible exaggerated fear of being rejected.

So there's an anxiety of being rejected,

You're saying?

Yes.

Yeah.

What is that called?

I just thought for the first time that it's got like four words.

I can't remember,

But it was pretty self-explanatory.

It's some sort of excessive.

What was the first one called?

What was the first one called?

This is good.

This is social anxiety disorder,

Which is used to be called social phobia.

Okay.

I thought that was the second one.

You said something else.

The first one.

The first one was generalized anxiety,

Which is a general walking through life,

Worrying.

Walking through life with like small things just feel really big.

And as we go through this,

By the way,

All the people who are live streaming with us on Facebook and YouTube,

We're following both chats.

If you want to ask a question or talk about a certain situation that you want help on from both the world of science,

Merging with the world of Kabbalah,

We're all teachers of Kabbalah here.

I think Rachel brings the hybrid of these two worlds.

We actually got a couple of questions in advance that I can share.

Okay,

Great.

I want people to know that live you can ask them too when we're following Elie Shevina or following in the chat so we can ask them to Rachel and share ourselves.

Any other kinds of anxiety you want to- Yeah.

And there's also like it can also lead to separation anxiety is also a really popular one,

Actually,

Which is it kind of overlaps,

I think with the social,

But it's more specifically about the fear of losing someone close to you.

They're being abandoned or like people who walk around,

Like always checking to see if their loved one made it safe,

Like excessively,

Not just like,

Cause they went on a flight or so that's a separation anxiety kind of thing.

And that's usually rooted in some sort of attachment trauma,

This life or past lives.

And then there's phobias and that's kind of a branch of the different kinds of anxiety.

And there's three different kinds of phobias.

So,

And they connect sometimes or the traumas we've experienced.

And sometimes one,

Like a phobia or a panic attack,

For example,

Can then create a phobia.

Like if you have a panic attack,

I had a client who had a panic attack and target with her friends.

And so then it became a phobia of going to target.

And that becomes agoraphobia where you're afraid of being open spaces or being in public because you can't easily without being embarrassed,

Leave it if you feel like you're having a panic attack.

So what are the three kinds of phobias?

What I'm sorry,

What are the other kinds?

What are the three kinds?

So you said the first one was what,

What do you call that one?

Well,

The,

Well,

The one I just mentioned was agoraphobia.

And that is where people who just kind of feel safe only in their home.

It can get so extreme where people don't leave,

But it's because something is going on out in the world that they feel like they won't have access to something that they need to feel safe or they'll be embarrassed.

They need to exit quickly.

And then that would be too embarrassing to do so.

So that's agoraphobia.

And then there's specific phobia,

Which is like the spiders or throwing up,

You know,

It could be you know,

Fear of animals.

It could be a fear of thunder,

Just things that are specific that are a trigger.

And then there is the more social phobia.

And that is that one is like a fear of being embarrassed.

Public speaking would fit in social phobia.

That you know,

That something would happen,

It'd be,

You would be really humiliated.

It's powerful.

Do you find that there is a specific spiritual underpinning when someone comes to you with phobias and anxiety?

Is there a commonality on the inner level?

Obviously the external,

There's going to be lots of details,

Lots of you know,

Childhood issues and triggers and things.

But is there a thread that you have found runs through beneath all of these?

Yes,

Absolutely.

I would say that whatever it is that they're experiencing in their childhood that could also have influenced us,

Usually the younger years,

There's developmental trauma and then incidental traumas and school trauma,

Home traumas,

Medical traumas,

But they often then do influence at least how it appears to us in this lifetime.

The kind of belief systems and the stories and the coping mechanisms that the ego constructs in order to survive.

So we want to appreciate what the ego defense mechanisms create.

But I would say that though when examining the,

Even getting to the root,

Because that's always what I like to do is to try to dig deeper to see what is it at the root that may be planting these nerve system traumas and thought pattern traumas.

But even still those patterns tend to run deeper than their childhood.

And so for those,

Especially who are open spiritually,

We do try to examine and zoom out for what might it be that in this life,

This is something for you,

Your journey is about overcoming this.

If it's you were abandoned when you were a child or you were neglected so much so that you had the experience of being so alone,

Then it's,

That's very common that I see that then there's this hyper phobic feeling of losing someone.

But then I would say to dig deeper with that is there isn't the opportunity to see where is it that you are here to create a sense of connecting to your own soul,

Connecting to a sense of safety and to something bigger.

And because that could be your barrier and expressing your purpose and shining your light.

And so that the ego will enjoy keeping you back.

This is good because I think we're getting into solution mode now.

I don't know if.

.

.

So that's one thing I want to clarify is.

.

.

Because I think people are very excited to hear about solutions.

I want to jump in before we go further.

We very consciously and intentionally mapped out these episodes so that we have the first step.

Last week was an introduction.

This week we're looking at more of the deeper and the key.

The key word is examination and observation.

We want to spend this week looking,

Understanding,

Digging deep at what that voice,

As Rachel was saying,

What the voice of the ego is telling us,

What constructs we've built over the decades that we've been on the planet to protect and defend ourselves.

And next week,

David and I will be talking more about tools and approaches to overcoming some of these things.

But I think one of the most powerful things and one of the main reasons we wanted to bring Rachel here to talk this out with us is because that voice of the opponent or the ego creates these stories and these narratives that might not necessarily serve us or even,

As we perceived,

Protect or defend us.

We want to be able to break down what that is before we can even get to the.

.

.

We'll talk a little bit today about preventative,

Preventing anxiety,

But the healing we will approach on a more direct level next week.

And I want all of our listeners to remember,

Especially those who are on the path of the study and wisdom of Kabbalah.

Many people aren't on a structured path.

They just tune into us once a week and glean bite-size versions of this wisdom.

But it's very important,

And I have to remind not only myself,

But my students on a daily basis,

That the reason why we came to this world is to be able to experience some of these fears and these anxieties,

Which we call in Kabbalah the desire to receive for the self alone.

It's the spiritual baggage that we bring from lifetime to lifetime that if we can correct them,

And we're going to talk about those solutions of how to correct them,

If we can correct them,

We unlock the gates of wisdom,

Of certainty,

Of happiness,

Both spiritual and physical blessing.

And that's the crux of what we teach in Kabbalah.

And I can't tell you how many times I've stood into a text,

An email,

Or call and say,

I'm going through this situation,

This person is bothering me,

And I can't imagine staying married to this person,

I can't imagine this,

I can't imagine all these things.

And it's painful,

It's definitely uncomfortable.

However,

We got to go back to the spiritual premise of why is the Creator,

The universe,

Sending you this specific challenge at this moment in time?

What can you take responsibility for?

How can you elevate?

Because you must elevate first before you try to solve the problem.

You have to elevate,

You have to realize that the enemy are these fears,

The spiritual baggage that we call tikkun,

That we bring into this life.

So I want to emphasize that that's our purpose.

When you wake up in the morning,

Just remind yourself that's your purpose,

Everything else is secondary,

Your children,

Your family,

Your business,

Your giving,

Your sharing,

This radio show,

All of this stuff that we do.

The fact that David keeps calling it a radio show even though it's not on the radio.

You know,

Just because it's so,

It's not even important.

It's like fifth on our list.

Of course,

We treat it as it being important,

But it cannot be the thing that you wake up with in the morning.

And I,

Just the last thing I'll say before I hand it over back to you guys is every morning I wake up and I have a thousand thoughts that run through my head,

And I'm sure you all can relate,

Of the problems,

Of the things that are unresolved,

Of this email,

Of when is that person going to get back to me,

You know,

Problems that haven't even happened,

Might happen.

And I have to remind myself and it takes me time,

I got to spend 10,

20,

30,

40 minutes in the morning,

Reminding myself what is the purpose of why I'm even alive and what is my spiritual mission because every day it becomes a hundred other things.

And that's just the way it is.

It doesn't matter how spiritually you were the day before.

So just keep reminding ourselves that your number one mission is transformation and elevation.

Well,

I think that that,

To David's point,

First of all,

He's starting a new Kabbalah One class tonight.

If you're listening on Monday,

You still have,

Well,

If you're listening anytime this week,

You can still join whether you missed the first session or not.

But if anything that David just said is intriguing or you want to know more,

Kabbalah One is the place to get that.

We can put the link in the comments and we can also send you the link.

You can email us at energyboostatkabbalah.

Com if you want more information about that.

But there's a lot to be said about the work that we do more than speaking in front of groups of people is working one-on-one with individuals.

And one of the things I find people come to us constantly with is,

These fears are interfering with my work.

These fears are interfering with my relationship.

These fears are interfering with my ability to parent or to take care of my wellbeing.

And what David was basically saying is the opposite,

That these fears are really coming to you so you will take care of them.

They're not interfering.

Your desire to,

I don't know,

Have a non-confrontational marriage that doesn't have arguments or hiccups or anything like that,

That's getting in the way of you dealing with what the challenge is coming to you to deal with.

And I want to hear,

I know Rachel has a lot to say about this,

So I want to give the mic back to her.

Rachel,

When you encounter individuals who see their fears or their anxieties as the problem,

How do you help them work through that part?

Yeah.

Well,

I feel like it needs to be a slow drip on our consciousness to really kind of undo the natural inclination to kind of zoom into a fear and zoom into the external versus the internal.

So it's constantly reminding.

And first kind of introducing the idea offering the idea that there is another way of looking at our fears in our lives from the more the inside out.

And so I have found by studying the wisdom of Kabbalah,

One of the things that I think has been the most transformational is to start to grasp power that I have in my life by the power that I have in my consciousness and to choose my thoughts and to choose how I'm going to look at whatever it is that I'm facing,

Including myself.

And so I find that one of the things that is before getting into tools of how to overcome,

I think there's this preliminary kind of consciousness that is so important,

Which is to not see the fear as an enemy or as something that you reject or feel shame about,

But really to seize it as like a map,

As an indicator,

As information about where there's an imbalance and where that there's something more deep inside of me that wants to have more in life to elevate more that this fear is showing me.

It's like,

I like it.

So you think of it as a map.

It's showing me exactly where my next kind of level of work is.

A lot of students think that the fear,

This is just the baseline of where everybody in the world starts.

Fear,

This uncomfortable situation is an impediment to my happiness,

To me going to my next level,

To my growth.

And that is false.

What we're saying,

And we're not just saying it to make you feel better.

This is scientific spiritual law that fear is the stepping stone,

The gate by which your marriage will improve,

Your friendships will improve,

You'll be wealthier,

You'll be more successful.

You must go through that gate that is uncomfortable.

There's no other gate,

Every other gate that is being shown to you besides the gate of your fear,

Those are the illusionary gates.

Those are the gates that make you go on the hamster wheel.

Those are the gates that actually take you right back to where you were.

Someone told me recently about suicide.

It's something,

The topic that comes up and sometimes you never know it's that person that's thinking about it or is going through depression.

What's the answer?

What's the thing that we always talk about when somebody goes through that?

I said to this person,

I said,

That's okay that you feel that way.

We talked about it.

I said,

But you should probably know that in a past life you had the same exact thoughts.

The only difference was that you did leave the world.

And now here we are again,

At probably the same exact age that you left the world.

You're having the same thoughts and the same feelings because the gate that you chose,

I'm not saying it's a good or bad gate,

I'm not here to judge,

But the gate you chose is only going to bring you back to the same exact place you are now.

If you were to leave the world again today by your choice,

Just know that we're going to have the same exact conversation in your next life and you're going to have the same wall,

The same fear and the same sadness that you must overcome.

Okay.

Rachel,

If it's okay with you,

I want to get a little bit personal with you for a second.

I'm sure there is.

The question is,

What is your most,

Not most,

But your go to Kabbalistic mantra when you find yourself facing challenges?

We all have a favorite,

I call it a mantra because it's like,

You know that you have a trigger and you know that the trigger is going to respond to one bite,

One nugget of consciousness.

Maybe it's just a matter of asking you right now,

What is your nugget that you go to most often in your daily life?

I would say it is the true reality that the light of the creator is right next to me,

Right in this,

Loving me.

And that is why I'm right here.

And seeing it anything other than filled with light and just right to benefit me is when I can start to miss the chance to really use the experience to elevate.

So I think that would be the number one is try to not only just know it as a like teaching that we hear again and again,

But to slow down into it and feel it in my body and make it personal to me.

That resonates strongly.

I'm moderating these Kabbalah one,

Two and three classes.

And in one of the last couple of classes we did,

We talked about how in times of darkness,

There's greater light.

And I think that brings up something very important because a lot of the people that I've worked with over the years that have debilitating fears,

Their perception is that in the darkness,

There is no light.

There's no return.

They get to these places where their fears are so consuming.

I heard from a listener who was asking about the tendency to go to worst case scenarios.

And in those places,

Even when it's a relatively mundane situation,

Right?

Something I need to buy might sell out.

Or I think a lot of people that I've spoken to in the last six months are worried about the people that they love staying healthy.

How do we keep ourselves from going to those worst case scenarios when our fears are triggered?

You and I and David,

We know in the times of darkness,

The light is even greater.

How do you work people through those moments?

And by the way,

Before you answer that,

I want to get a response from you that is not so Kabbalistic.

Because I know the Kabbalah stuff,

That's easy.

A lot of our listeners have heard this.

I want to know how you combine the two worlds of your extensive background in the scientific world,

I don't know what we want to call it,

And how you merge that with spirituality.

Because I think our listeners will be most excited to hear that from your perspective.

Well,

I think this probably doesn't mean it excludes Koala,

You know,

It's so overlapping.

But I think what I do when I'm faced with the challenge that,

You know,

Often it's in relationship,

You know,

That's kind of a common one for me,

Is I connect with a younger part of myself.

And like,

Whether it's the girl in me that feels like unimportant,

Or too small and insignificant.

And so I will try to have a dialogue or be loving and compassionate and validating to myself from within.

And so again,

Like,

That's not a non Kabbalistic idea.

That's a great answer.

How do you identify?

Because I don't think I would have thought of that I would never thought that what I'm going through right now can actually be solved by me going back in time,

The whole inner child exploration,

Right,

Right.

But I would have never thought that that would be the tool to use in the moment of discomfort.

So can you how do you know?

Was it your 18 year old self?

Was it your 25 year old self?

I think I don't think most people even realize they shut down.

They've closed off the past for most people.

Most people aren't going to think right away.

Oh,

You know what this was in high school.

This happened to me in high school and when he when this guy left me and then so how do you what are the steps you take to even identifying that inner child which part of your life?

I guess that's where it starts to become more about like a therapeutic relationship or a therapeutic,

You know,

The therapeutic aspect of connecting to the younger parts of oneself.

It's it starts with educating oneself and awareness that what I might be experiencing right now in this lifetime is not necessarily just rooted in this one moment that's happening that it's triggering something that in my nervous system.

I've been here before and it was a bad experience.

And so it's a pain that I don't want to feel so I might do something reactive externally to try to run from that pain but by connecting getting to know the younger parts of us and getting to know what our triggers are that awareness is just it's such a it's like a power tool.

I always call awareness as a power tool because then you can then know what you can do with it proactively because you know,

Something is being evoked.

It's very painful that that then rather than just doing something to control it or just associate from it or distract from it,

Which is most of what the ego will try to do.

I can move into being with it and staying with the pain and letting it be also a teacher for me or use it for my development and then and then enter into it and in relationship with myself that is different than a relationship that I had,

You know in the past with anyone else or or with myself at the time.

So it's not always clear that it's like I know exactly the moment of when something happened,

But I'm I've gotten to know myself well enough and to know what gets evoked.

That's very powerful.

I connect I have a relationship with that part of me.

It's a little abstract but but and at times,

You know,

It's been more concrete where I had actual images of that girl or of those moments,

But now it's more of just sort of an intuition sort of a inner sense and and it's more like how I shift my consciousness and how I relate to this part of me sometimes it's also that I need to you know,

Elevate from it and focus on what I'm you know,

Grateful for and focus on the gifts.

I've been given and you know kind of take that younger part of me by the hand and say look at all that we have and let's go do something good with it.

So that's powerful because what we are talking about in our classes and this is just adding another element to it another color to it is we can all agree that when you're in pain,

You you have to just pause you can't look for the way to escape that pain that escapism is the biggest problem that perpetuates the chaos that perpetuates the lack and whether we're talking spirituality or therapy,

We're all saying the same thing.

We're saying don't run away from this.

I love that.

I love Rachel that you said that it's embedded in our nervous system because it's embedded in the soul level then that leaks into leeches into the body,

Which is the nervous system and that's why sometimes you look at somebody reacting to something and you're like,

What's the big deal?

Like just you know,

Just do the people people say why don't you just do this and let's do that.

We can give all the best advice in the world to other people,

But we can't help ourselves for that reason.

Oh my gosh,

How many therapists are there?

The comedians weren't it's kind of like it's always I want to talk to a therapist who was giving all this great advice and then I talked to her about her own life.

I mean it was it was it was like a nightmare.

That's evidence to what we're talking about here that there is this construct called the opponent that is there not to win but to challenge us to be better to step into our greatness to overcome and and to me,

You know again,

I know a lot of us are out here listening,

You know,

I know that I have fears.

I know that they may be rooted in childhood or you know,

As we learn in Kabbalah many of those unexplainable fears anything that that you can't draw the line you can't connect the dots to is rooted in a previous lifetime.

Maybe Rachel you can share with us.

How does how does a fear go from being a fear to being whether you call it an anxiety or debilitating right because everybody has fears,

But some people struggle with fears beyond the normal day-to-day where it becomes paralyzing and debilitating.

Yes,

And I'll say I brought this upstairs.

Well,

I'm working from home now since my home office,

But I brought this book upstairs the fears on an option because I read the book was Monica Berg's book on fear and I read it and I loved it and then I taught a seminar on it and then I went deeper into it and there's so much in there.

It's very simple,

But it's extremely useful.

So I guess one of the you know,

Monica talks about the real fears the healthy fears and the irrational fears and it's really the same thing that we were talking about a minute ago David about,

You know awareness and really getting to know what your fears are and picking up the subtleties of when it becomes from goes from a real fear and then the ego hijacks us and it becomes an irrational fear.

And so for example,

We have a fear like a real fear is that we will lose someone that's very important to us that is part of because we thank God we have a heart and we care and we love with love.

I'm saying it comes with loving someone is the fear that they may not always be there.

But what we want to look out for is where it becomes irrational is when we start using what are called a distorted cognitions and there's a whole list of distorted cognition.

There's probably 20 distorted cognitions,

But one of them is the overgeneralizing and the catastrophizing that what you said earlier Alicia,

But thinking the worst.

And so that's when we know it's moving into a rat big Q it's moving in impending doom impending doom.

Really?

And so what I maybe this is getting too much into tools,

But I you know,

Like there's a way to handle them handle the fear before it becomes irrational where we are because a lot of this is about control.

Like when you ask me what's like a one word that's that would describe fears or let the root of it.

I think a lot of it is related to control and so and not feeling in control.

So these irrational fears are really the ego tricking us into thinking that you can actually control this by worrying about it by overthinking about it by creating all these like tics and rituals that are going to stop you from being able to be vulnerable and we're vulnerable.

So the redirecting it is sort of an elevating I like to like dig in for the inner work of the knowing our emotions and our traumas,

But also elevating to where we're proactive and then we're above the fear.

So like for example,

If you're afraid of losing someone then this is an example Monica actually gives which is to focus on how you can be as proactive as you can be with nourishing the relationship with becoming a better partner with showing your appreciation making sure you do not take for granted for a minute and then you're so busy with that.

There's not time to have an irrational fear about losing.

Could it also be that sometimes your fear is for example,

Let's say it's our parents.

I know people who really got the opportunity especially in the latter part of their life to be with their parents to give back to their parents to resolve issues with their parents that when that parent passes away,

It's a diff it's not there's less fear attached because I think a lot of the fear comes from all the missed opportunities or maybe I didn't resolve stuff with my parents or I wasn't as good of a child as I could have been.

So this would also play into it the idea that if I do everything I know on the spiritual and the physical,

The physical level to connect deeper to respect to clear up any tension or issues that I've had with my parents that will that will also cause the fear to dissipate because maybe a lot of the fears that we have are that I'm going to miss the chance or lose the opportunity to X,

Y and Z.

Yeah,

Absolutely creates like it removes the space between you and them.

And so then you are more at peace with whatever happens in the journey more so.

Beautiful.

I there's a question here.

I want to take some of the questions that are coming in live.

Someone wrote how do you help someone else who has depression?

Which is this is a good question because I think Although completely off topic.

Why is that off topic?

We're talking about fear not depression.

Well,

Okay.

Well,

There's a there's a connection.

I just wanted to bring it up.

And the reason is that we're sometimes very good at addressing people who have like a desire to to to change or their passion and remember they just reactive.

They're externally reactive and sometimes with depression.

It can cause a person to shut down and and to even shut down their desires and not even have a desire to want to change or to do something about it.

So I'm curious.

What is your answer Rachel to someone who's going through that because obviously depression is the result of fears that haven't been dealt with different different anxieties and different negativities that haven't been dealt with.

So I'm curious to see what your answer on that is.

Well,

I guess I you know,

When bringing up depression,

It's not not only at least from my understanding not only the fears that haven't been dealt with but there's a lot of emotion.

I see fear or anxiety as a cover emotion for a lot of other emotions that are a lot harder to be with actually anger and anxiety.

I have watched be like just a go-to.

Whereas there may be a lot of sadness that's really needs to be expressed and released from the nervous system and grieved and before you can really come to a place of using you know that for your own growth.

But I think with trying to help anyone whether it's with anxiety or depression,

It's a similar and the two of them tend to come together.

They're sort of cousins.

They have a similar route but but nonetheless in helping I think one of the first things is to we tend to want to rush people in their process because it's so painful for us that they're struggling and so,

You know person is always feel safer to be near you and come to you when you are not judging them or not frustrated with them or not trying to fix them and so making yourself an open kind of safe person is really important and to be patient because it is it's very draining though to be connected to somebody who's struggling with mental health challenges.

So you have to really make sure you take care of yourself and know where your personal boundaries end and theirs begin and know that you can only do so much but there are times when you can actually I've gone with someone actually a good friend to the counselor with them because they just were had a phobia.

I think of actually taking the step and going this person had just moved to St.

Louis and was really struggling and so,

You know,

Seeing how you might be able to get a little bit more involved but in a way that isn't out of frustration with them or rushing them,

But how you might be able to take them by the hand and see if you can get them the next steps of help that they need beautiful.

Is there anything you can recommend to us for preventing or as you said proactively interrupting that process that going from fear to phobia or fear to anxiety?

Yes,

I think getting to like when it first starts,

You know,

When you start first start to feel afraid or is,

You know,

Catching them when they're real and healthy and doing something proactive and and then I think kind of on a regular basis knowing what is going on inside of you and knowing what some of the other because the fear comes to teach us something to grow for our benefits.

So for proactively looking for what's my next step.

What is it that I want more of and how can I proactively go for that or where is it that I need to resolve something in myself that like for example confronting isn't always easy for me and so like if I have an opportunity where rather than a fear cycle starting then I might say,

You know,

I think for my growth I might just need to say something and then it will will stop sort of the you know,

Kind of ruminating and going round and round and being afraid of what will happen or so I think being aware of what it is that your own themes are your own patterns and lessons and then going proactively to address those and I find that studying listening to 10 luminous emanations reading the Zohar studying the spiritual wisdom just puts me in such a whole nother plane that it's like a zooming out.

In fact,

That was a class recently a TLE class I watched last week about zooming out versus zooming in when you notice yourself zooming in and like making that one thing you don't have or that's lacking become everything then then zoom out and start doing other things like take care of your body make sure that you have a hobby make sure that you you know are taking care of your marriage and and not just maybe the work thing that you're like really focusing on so staying balanced because fear is an indicator that something is out of balance.

So doing things on a regular basis to look at what your big rocks in the jar are and making sure that you're investing in those sort of creates like a protection shield from the fear showing up as a messenger for being a balance.

I have I have a I have two tools that I wanted to share but before I do at least you have a I know you got something on the tip of your tongue you want to say I don't want you to share tools till next week.

No I can't live you don't want us to share any tools of how to deal with anxiety.

Well I want Rachel to give her nuggets but we have a whole show that we're going to dedicate to different approaches and understandings of helping people overcome their fears.

So sorry.

Nothing to talk about next week.

Well there's always going to be good stuff to talk about but that's okay.

That's okay.

Maybe we'll talk about restrictions.

Well no I Rachel I would be I think we would be doing our listeners a disservice if we wouldn't talk about the absolutely justifiable fears that everyone is having now on some level or another whether related to COVID or the political situation and I know everyone whenever I say that I think people always think oh she's talking about the elections in the US.

The other country I mean we have in Venezuela we have it's one of our the countries that we have the highest listenership in Mexico in in the Arab world like there's so much we're out there all over the world.

That's one of the reasons I don't want to ever focus on what's happening in California or in the US.

How there is so much evidence physically around us news headlines financial market stuff how can we not not only give in to those fears that are totally materially justifiable but also use those external that external evidence to grow and strengthen ourselves.

Yes well I think whatever I'm finding that wherever people are in their own relationship with themselves and their own consciousness and their own mental well-being that is just being intensely triggered right now.

So if you're not in a place where you feel you have the agency in your life that I'm accountable for my growth that comes things come to me as opportunities and it's really going to be a lot harder.

It's going to be like the pressure just keep pushing down and down but I do find that the more that we can look at what's happening as the opportunities that they are then that becomes where we do have control and that's just talking with a woman this morning about that is really focusing on like what Michael Berg said recently that I love which is we're not here to change to control reality but to embrace our soul's process so anytime that's what we have control over so I would say look for where it is that you do have control like where does it you want to make sure that you're kind no matter what's going on around you where is it that you're like David said earlier working on your own transformation that's has nothing to do with what's happening around us that's something inside but there's a simple thing that I love that I wanted to add that is Deb Dana is I do a lot of work with trauma and and in the past 10 years the focus has shifted more to somatic work like how you move trauma through the nervous system and how much how much we can create like a corrective emotional experience where we can read almost redo the experience but our body has a different response to it so it no longer gets stuck stay stuck stuck but one of the things that one of these theorists or therapists who do do this somatic work is her name is Deb Dana and she has a book called polyvagal theory and she talks about a concept called glimmers there are triggers which are cues of danger and we have a lot of cues of danger right now but there are also glimmers and those are things that we can we have in our life already and can add in our life where we are safe and we are warm and we are connected and so as much as we can find things that we have in our life and we can embellish in our life it could be it could be connected to ourself connected to something bigger connected to nature and animals and people in our lives it could be a simple thing of making the bed that gives you some sort of a good feeling or it could be you know breathing or music or familiar people there's that it goes on and on the things that we can do that make us feel warm safe and connected and I think we need to really increase those right now and really kind of have our mind focused on looking for where those are that's beautiful because it when I think of the word glimmer I think of the word sparks and we're always talking on the show about elevating sparks that's a really beautiful visual on on the really technique on how to take ourselves from the shift focus I guess is the right word to shift our focus from what isn't or what might not be to what is and what is amazing so I'm going to share a tool people are writing people are writing they have to have a tool from it from from again from my point of view and we've we've spoken about many tools but I will elaborate upon it I'm just gonna I'm just gonna you know get dip my toe in the in the pool here and then we'll we'll pick it up next week because I see we're nearing the end of the show I just think it's so powerful because the Kabbalists we have we have prayer we have struck we talk about prayer all the time we have structured prayer but the structured prayer is only a couple thousand years old and only only a couple thousand years old relative to what the Kabbalists actually revealed was an unstructured prayer we're talking all the way since the beginning of man how would man pray it was a it was a silent shouting from deep inside myself humans mankind mankind mankind yeah humankind I'm not a man human kind humankind okay so how would humankind basically pray what was their way of communicating with the divine and that was that silent shouting from deep inside their soul and what that would do is create an energy and create a frequency it would expand their desire which would expand their vessel to allow the universe to kind of like rotate faster around them to make things happen to bring to fruition different realities quicker that's what prayer is prayer is an expansion of your vessel and your desire which then shifts the world and something that I practice daily besides the structured prayer that we talk about is an unstructured prayer which no one can hear and I'll be something that Rachel said is if I want to know something that happened in my childhood that I don't really I can't really remember I'll spend five or ten minutes just with my eyes closed and ask over and over and over again it could be hundreds of times saying the same phrase show me I want to reveal the source the root of my chaos right now or my pain right now of my challenge and I want people to know that you can do this anytime anywhere you can be on the subway you can be in the car you can be waiting at a doctor's office you could be waiting a checkout line in a grocery store and you can do this for free you don't need anything else you don't need any capitalistic tools just you and the light of the Creator and if you ask for something over and over and over and over and over again deeply from inside yourself you're sending a signal out to the universe to reveal that to you so a lot of times we hear like well how do you do this well how do I get out of my anxiety how do I whatever and if you ask over and over again show me how open my eyes I want to know I want to understand if you really want to know you make it a priority then things are revealed to you the reason why answers aren't revealed to us the reason why some people are listening to this radio show right now and they got an aha I'm sorry not a radio show the the podcast or whatever you want to call it the reason why people are tuning in now and some people are not is because that person earlier in the day somehow requested I want to know how to get rid of my anxiety it could have been a passive thing it could have been a more conscious thing but they said it and because they said it their body their consciousness everything led them to all of a sudden seeing that we're alive and it's about anxiety and then they said okay let me listen to this when you are clear about something that you want and you communicate it with the universe the universe obliges and starts to put you on that path to understanding it and revealing it but if you're not doing that then you're just extending your process and it's gonna take longer and longer Rachel we have about 30 seconds left you have any parting words for our listeners well I guess two things come to mind one is that I want to thank David I love this show by the way I just can never get enough of it I love it and I every morning now because of what you've talked about on the show do start my day with more consciousness than I did before like I write down where I where I need help and I forget to ask for help all the time so that's a good reminder and you know where I want my consciousness to be during the day or just what kind of gem I want to have is my kind of you know flashlight throughout the day but I guess one of the main things is I was I want people to really understand is how much just you can overcome your anxiety and your fears and how much that your power that you have within you is way more than you think and I've just experienced it I didn't know that I had that kind of power because I'm a very emotional person I've got so much water in my charts that I just am all I'm like swimming all the time but I have identified how much power I have over my own mind my own conscious my own choosing of where I put my thoughts and actions and words that it's extremely exciting it's a really fun game and I just want I hope to inspire people to it's worth the effort amen to that beautiful beautiful and the final thing is that you mentioned it in what is it one hour five hours in its class yeah in five hours I'll be doing the global Kabbalah one most it's gonna be 4 p.

M.

Pacific time most people who attend last time we had about 1,

500 people almost 1,

500 people who registered from all around the world from mainly not the US so this is an opportunity for friends family to access it I'm gonna teach it in a new way I'm kind of I'm gonna use the curriculum I'm gonna teach a new way new emphasis new types of topics new tools and it's also pay what you can so if person can't afford it they don't have to pay anything if they can't afford something obviously they're donating towards a good cause to allow other people to study through this model and we'll begin it we'll begin it tonight in about five hours amazing so on behalf of all of our listeners and David and myself thank you so much Rachel for joining us this morning as as usual you can continue to comment on the put your comments in the comment section of the video if you're listening on podcast and have questions or comments you can always email us at energyboost at kabbalah.

Com and as promised next episode will be completely dedicated to sharing tips tools and processes that can help you overcome your fears have a fabulous week and thanks for listening to the weekly energy boost.

Thank you Dr.

Rachel.

My pleasure.

It's great to be here.