Podcast: Heart Intelligence (HQ)

In this episode of The NightOwl Podcast, we have a summary from our Insight Timer Live where we took a deep dive into Shifting from Mind-Based to Heart-Based Intelligence: The core theme of this podcast revolves around accessing and understanding the intelligence of the heart, which Devon posits as being primary and operating beyond the limitations of the mind and linear time.

Transcript

Alright,

Diving in today.

We're tackling this fascinating idea of heart intelligence.

You know that our hearts might actually be smarter than we give them credit for.

Smarter,

Yeah.

We're basing this deep dive on a talk by Devin Kern and he,

Well,

He gets in some pretty interesting stuff like blending science and spirituality.

It might ruffle some feathers,

But hey,

It's worth considering.

Definitely.

Right away,

Kern brings up this study by the Heart Math Institute.

Really got me thinking.

It showed the heart reacting to stuff,

To stimuli actually,

Before the brain does.

Whoa,

Hold on.

Before the brain.

Yeah,

Like that's a huge deal,

Right?

Kind of throws a wrench in that whole brain a CEO thing we've all been taught.

It does make you wonder,

Doesn't it?

Like what's really going on there?

Is the heart picking up on things like beyond our normal five senses?

That's the question,

Isn't it?

Kern's argument is that the heart isn't just reacting,

It's actually perceiving and processing information on its own.

And get this,

The heart generates this powerful electromagnetic field way bigger than the brain's.

Much bigger.

And some researchers think this field lets the heart communicate with other organs.

Maybe even pick up on like subtle energy information we don't consciously register.

Okay,

So we're not just talking about warm fuzzies here.

No.

We're talking about a whole other level of intelligence,

Maybe even beyond what we normally think of as thinking.

Exactly.

And Kern,

He doesn't shy away from the spiritual side either.

He talks about the heart chakra,

That energy center,

You know,

Acting as a conduit for this deeper knowing.

He even suggests it could be a pathway to,

Get this,

The Akashic Records.

Whoa,

Okay,

Hold up a sec.

Akashic Records.

Some of our listeners might not be familiar with that.

Can you like unpack that a bit?

What are we talking about here?

Imagine this,

Like boundless archive.

Every thought,

Every action,

Every experience ever,

All stored there.

That's the Akashic Records,

At least the idea of them.

True.

Lots of spiritual traditions believe they exist.

And Kern's suggestion is that when our hearts are open,

Truly attuned,

We can tap into this massive library of knowledge.

That's pretty mind-blowing.

So it's not just feelings,

It's about like universal wisdom,

Everything being interconnected.

That's the core of Kern's message.

He uses this analogy,

The heart chakra,

As a cosmic umbilical cord connecting us to this like universal source.

It suggests we're not just individuals but part of a larger web of consciousness.

Yeah,

That resonates with me too.

I've had those moments where I just knew something deep down and it turned out to be true.

It's like an inner guidance system that defies logic but always seems to know the way.

That's why Kern argues it's so important to cultivate a relationship with our hearts,

Not just managing emotions but accessing a deeper wisdom that can guide us in every area of life.

Okay,

So how do we do that?

How do we tune into this heart intelligence and let it lead the way?

This is interesting.

Kern talks about sin but not in the traditional way.

He goes back to the original meaning of the word,

Which is basically to miss the mark.

Miss the mark.

Yeah,

Like an archer missing the target.

And he connects that to heart intelligence,

Saying when our hearts are off-center,

Our perceptions get all distorted.

We make choices that lead us away from our true path,

Not because we're bad but because we're out of alignment with our deepest selves.

So it's not about being good or bad,

It's about being in tune with who we really are.

Yeah.

Our purpose.

Yeah.

And when we're off kilter,

We're more likely to make choices that,

Well,

Don't really serve us.

Exactly.

We start operating from fear,

Scarcity,

All those limiting beliefs that keep us playing small.

Kern's argument is that by realigning with our hearts,

We can shed those limitations and see things from a clearer,

More expansive perspective.

That makes a lot of sense.

So how do we actually do that?

What are some practical ways to bring our hearts back to center?

Kern emphasizes practices like grounding,

Contemplation,

Trusting our innate knowing,

Quieting the mind,

Connecting with our bodies,

Creating space for that deeper wisdom to,

Like,

Emerge.

Okay,

But let's get specific.

Let's say we have a listener.

She's a female business leader running her own company.

How can she actually apply these concepts in a high-pressure,

Results-oriented environment?

Imagine her,

Got this big decision to make.

Right.

Instead of just crunching numbers,

You know,

Spreadsheets and all that,

She takes a pause,

Just a moment,

Tunes into her body,

Maybe takes a few deep breaths,

And asks herself,

What feels right here?

Yeah.

What aligns with my values and,

You know,

The well-being of everyone involved?

So she's not ditching logic or strategy.

Right.

But she's bringing in that heart intelligence,

Adding it to the mix.

It's like she's getting a whole other level of insight,

That gut feeling that might point her in a direction that numbers wouldn't.

Yeah,

Exactly.

Kern talks about how intuition can be,

Like,

Clouded by fear sometimes,

But he says that's different from what he calls knowing,

A deeper level,

A certainty that comes from the heart,

When we quiet all that mental noise and connect with that inner wisdom.

Okay,

So how does our business leader know?

She's not just,

Like,

Letting emotions run wild.

How does she tell the difference between that fear-based intuition and this deeper knowing?

It's a practice,

You know,

Like anything else.

Kern says the more we cultivate that connection with our hearts,

The more we learn to recognize the difference.

He's big on grounding,

Literally feeling your feet on the ground,

Being present in your body,

As a way to quiet the mind and tune into those subtler signals.

That makes sense.

We're so used to living in our heads,

Always analyzing,

Strategizing,

That we lose touch with that wisdom in our bodies.

And that's where things can get really interesting.

Kern talks about this lottery winner exercise,

Where you imagine you've already achieved everything you want,

Not about the material stuff,

But embodying the feeling,

The state of being,

Of already having what you desire.

He argues that by shifting our energy like this,

We become more aligned with the frequency of what we want to create.

That's a powerful idea.

So it's not just about setting goals and taking action,

It's about cultivating the inner state that aligns with those goals.

Like,

We're already living the reality we want to manifest.

Exactly.

It's about becoming a vibrational match for what we desire.

And that shift in energy,

Kern argues,

Can impact our decisions,

Our relationships,

Our whole experience of life.

This is getting kind of woo-woo for me.

But I have to admit,

There's something about it that rings true.

I think a lot of our listeners,

Especially those in the business world,

Might be thinking,

How does this translate into real results?

Can we really just manifest our dreams by changing our energy?

Kern acknowledges it can sound a little out there,

But he brings in scientific research and ancient spiritual wisdom to back it up.

He talks about the heart picking up on information before the brain,

And that this knowing often works outside of our linear perception of time.

Wait,

Hold on.

The heart getting information before the brain?

Are we saying our hearts can see the future?

This is getting wild.

Well,

Let's not get ahead of ourselves with the time travel stuff,

But Kern's point is there's a deeper intelligence at work here,

One that goes beyond what our rational minds can grasp.

He sees it as this intuitive knowing,

That gut feeling that's often spot on,

Even if we can't explain why logically.

So how do we learn to trust those gut feelings,

Especially in a world that's always telling us to rely on logic and data?

It's about building that relationship with our hearts,

Learning to listen to those quiet whispers of wisdom,

And then having the courage to act on them.

Kern emphasizes that action is key.

It's the bridge between inspiration and actually making things happen,

Bringing our dreams into reality.

OK,

So it's not just about meditating and visualizing what we want.

We have to actually take steps,

Make choices that align with those desires.

Yeah,

But those actions,

They'll flow more naturally,

More effortlessly when we're operating from that place of heart alignment.

It's like we tap into this source of boundless energy and creativity that was always there,

Just waiting to be unleashed.

I'm starting to see how powerful this could be,

Not just for personal growth,

But for leadership,

For making real change in the world.

Exactly.

Kern talks about how when we're living from our hearts,

There's this natural desire to serve,

To contribute to something bigger than ourselves.

So it's not about becoming some selfless saint.

It's about finding that balance where our own well-being and the well-being of others are all connected.

That's it.

It's about realizing we're all part of something bigger.

Our actions have ripple effects,

And by choosing to act from love and wisdom,

We contribute to the good of everyone.

This is so inspiring.

It's like we're being called to step up,

To become more conscious creators of our own reality and co-creators of a better world.

And that's where Kern's message really hits home.

He's not just offering feel-good stuff.

He's presenting a whole new way of living,

One that empowers us to tap into our full potential and build a world that reflects our highest ideals.

I'm feeling a shift in my own energy just exploring these concepts.

It's like a whole new world of possibilities is opening up.

That's the power of heart intelligence.

It can transform not only our own lives,

But the world around us.

OK,

Before we get too carried away with all this transformative energy,

Let's bring it back down to earth for a minute.

Kern talks about grounding,

Connecting with the wisdom of our bodies.

What are some practical ways our listeners can do that?

Especially those of us who spend most of our day sitting at a desk,

Staring at a screen.

He suggests simple stuff like spending time in nature,

Even if it's just a walk in the park,

Feeling the sun,

The wind,

The earth beneath your feet,

Reconnecting with the natural world and allowing ourselves to be present in our bodies.

I can see how that would be a powerful antidote to all the mental stimulation we're constantly bombarded with.

Totally.

And it doesn't have to be complicated.

Even just closing your eyes for a few minutes,

Breathing deeply,

Focusing on the sensations in your body,

That can make a huge difference.

It's about interrupting that constant stream of thoughts and tuning in to that wisdom that's always there within us.

This is making me realize how disconnected I've become from my own body.

It's like I'm always up in my head,

Analyzing,

Planning,

Worrying about the future.

No wonder I feel so drained all the time.

It's common,

You know,

In our fast paced world.

But the good news is we can reclaim that connection.

And often it's the simplest things that bring us the most peace and well-being.

OK,

I'm feeling inspired to ditch the laptop and go for a walk in the woods.

But before I do,

I want to go back to something you mentioned earlier.

This idea of the heart chakra being like a cosmic umbilical cord connecting us to this universal source.

Can you say more about that?

What does that actually mean?

It is a beautiful metaphor,

Isn't it?

It points to this idea that we're not just individuals,

But part of something so much larger,

So much more interconnected than we can even fathom.

But how do we access that connection?

Is it just through meditation or are there other ways?

Meditation is definitely one path,

But not the only one.

Kern talks about cultivating gratitude,

Compassion,

Loving kindness as ways to open our hearts and tap into that universal energy.

So it's not just what we do,

But how we are in the world.

It's about radiating that heart centered energy outward,

Not just in our personal lives,

But our work,

Our communities,

Even just interacting with strangers.

Right.

It's about shifting from a mindset of scarcity and fear.

To one of abundance and love.

And when we do that,

We create this ripple effect that goes way beyond ourselves.

This is such a profound shift in perspective.

Yeah.

It's like we're reclaiming our power to create a world that reflects our highest aspirations.

And that's where the real magic is.

When we align our hearts with what we truly desire,

We connect to the source of infinite creativity,

Infinite possibility.

We become co-creators of a reality that's more beautiful,

More compassionate,

More in line with our soul's purpose.

I'm getting chills.

It's like this whole new world is opening up for anything is possible.

And the most amazing thing is it's all right here,

Right now.

We just have to choose to tap into it.

Okay.

I'm feeling so inspired right now.

I want to hear more about this choosing part.

What are some practical things our listeners can do to start cultivating this heart intelligence,

Bringing it into their everyday lives?

Kern emphasizes having a personal practice,

Something that helps you connect with your heart,

Quiet your mind,

Tune into that inner wisdom.

Could be meditation,

Yoga,

Spending time in nature,

Journaling,

Anything that feels nourishing and supportive to you.

So it's not about finding the right way,

It's finding what resonates with you,

What feels authentic and something you can keep up with.

Exactly.

And it's about making it a regular practice,

Something you commit to even when things get hectic.

Because the more we nurture that connection,

The more easily we can access it when we need it most.

This makes so much sense.

It's like working a muscle.

The more you use it,

The stronger it gets.

And the stronger our connection to our hearts,

The more resilient we become to life's ups and downs.

We develop this deep inner knowing that no matter what happens,

We have the wisdom and the strength to handle it with grace and courage.

This is so empowering.

It's like we're reclaiming our ability to not just survive,

But to truly thrive.

And that's Kern's invitation,

Ultimately,

To step into our full potential as heart centered beings,

To live from love,

Wisdom,

Interconnectedness,

And to create a world that embodies those values.

This has been such a mind blowing conversation.

I'm already feeling a shift inside,

A deeper sense of peace,

Purpose and possibility.

It's amazing how simply shifting our focus from our heads to our hearts can be so transformative.

Before we move on to part three of our deep dive.

Let's take a moment,

Just pause and reflect on what's resonated with you most so far.

What new insights have come up?

What practices feel particularly relevant to your life right now?

Welcome back to the deep dive.

Feels like we've only just dipped our toes into this whole heart intelligence thing.

I'm still processing everything from our last conversation.

There's a lot to unpack for sure.

And the deeper we go,

The more we discover.

One thing that really stuck with me was Kern's point about complacency.

You know how it's the enemy of evolution.

He's pushing us not to just sit back and think about this stuff,

But to really put it into action,

To actually become agents of change in the world.

Right.

He's all about conscious creation,

Not just passive observation.

It's like he's saying,

Don't just wish for a better world.

Get out there and help build it.

That resonates with me big time.

It's easy to fall into complaining about what's wrong with everything.

But Kern's message is about owning our power to make a difference.

He wants us to shift from that lack mentality to one of abundance and possibility.

To truly believe in our capacity to create a world that reflects our highest ideals.

He also shared this really powerful analogy about how as the shadow states rise,

So too does the light.

He sees all this global upheaval as an opportunity for huge awakening and transformation.

Yeah,

It's a good reminder that even in the darkest times,

There's always hope that challenges and crises can be catalysts for growth,

Both personally and for everyone collectively.

So instead of getting overwhelmed by all the craziness,

We can choose to see it as a call to action,

To step up and be those beacons of light.

Exactly.

It's about tapping into our own inner strength,

That resilience we all have,

And using it to navigate these tough times with grace and courage to be the change we want to see.

Speaking of navigating challenges,

Kern talks about slowing down,

Grounding ourselves,

Connecting with the wisdom of our bodies.

In our crazy,

Busy,

Tech driven world,

That can feel like a radical move.

Why is it so important?

When we're constantly bombarded with information and stimulation,

Our systems get overloaded.

We lose touch with our intuition,

That inner compass.

Slowing down,

Whether it's meditation,

Spending time in nature,

Even just taking a few conscious breaths,

Helps us reconnect with our bodies and those subtle whispers of our hearts.

It's like hitting the reset button,

Giving ourselves permission to just be present,

You know,

Without judgment or expectation.

Right.

And from that place of stillness,

We can access a deeper level of wisdom,

Clarity.

We can start to hear those intuitive nudges that guide us toward what's best for us.

Like we've been talking about,

Trusting our knowing.

Kern emphasizes that knowing is different from believing or hoping.

It's that deep inner certainty that comes from the heart.

It's a state of embodied wisdom where we move past doubt and uncertainty and tap into this unshakable clarity,

Like accessing that internal GPS that always knows the way.

And he's clear that it's not enough to just have these insights.

We need to act on them.

Action is what connects inspiration to actually making things happen,

Bringing our dreams into reality.

Absolutely.

It's about taking those inspired steps,

Aligning our actions with what our heart truly desires,

The actions that move us closer to the life we want to create.

So it's this beautiful dance between being and doing,

Cultivating that inner state of alignment and taking those outer actions that make it all real.

Exactly.

And as we practice this dance,

As we bring that heart centered approach to life,

We start to see a big shift in our energy,

Our relationships,

Our overall well-being.

It's like tapping into this unlimited source of power,

Wisdom and love that was always there.

We just didn't know how to get to it.

And the more we access it,

The more it flows through us,

Creating a ripple effect that touches everyone and everything around us.

This has been such a mind expanding conversation.

I feel like I have a whole new understanding of what it means to live a truly fulfilling life.

It's about bringing together our head and our heart,

Logic and intuition,

Our inner world and our outer actions,

Recognizing that we're all connected.

And by choosing to live from love and wisdom,

We help create a more beautiful and compassionate world.

That's a beautiful note to end on.

Thanks so much for diving deep with us today.

To all our listeners,

If you're feeling inspired to explore these ideas further,

We encourage you to check out Devin Kern's talk and keep listening to the whispers of your own heart.

Until next time,

Keep diving deep.

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