Dr. Wayne Dyer Interview On Aloha

I thought I'd share an interview I did with Dr. Wayne Dyer over 20 years ago on a show I used to do called, Living with Aloha. There are some real gems of wisdom in here. We talk about ways to understanding how to utilize the power of prayer. How we all have God with us. How to deal with Ego and much more.

Transcript

Aloha and welcome to a very special edition of Living Aloha.

I'm here with a guest that is just so marvelous.

This man has written,

I think we're up to 14 books,

14 books,

Many,

Many,

Let's see,

Cassettes and even a CD now.

His name is Dr.

Wayne Dyer and he's a part-time Maui resident.

Yes,

I am.

I have been for 14 years.

Is it 14 years?

Every summer you come out?

We come here for about two months every year.

I've written quite a few of my books here,

Conceived several of my children here.

I was married here on Maui.

Wow.

So this is like home for us.

A place very close to your heart.

Yes,

It is.

On Living Aloha,

We talk about what it takes to live in the spirit of Aloha.

The true meaning of the word Aloha because we find sometimes on the islands,

You know,

You use the word too much and sometimes you forget what it means.

We say Aloha hundreds of times in the course of a week and I don't know if we really have a chance sometimes in the course of a day to really even live that Aloha word.

It's a beautiful,

Beautiful word and if we all can live with that spirit of Aloha,

We really are living in a wonderful way.

We're really bringing kind of heaven to earth.

We're living,

If we could really live with sharing of what our true self is and sharing that love we have in our heart with another person,

I keep thinking what better way to live,

Right?

You see it in the islands a great deal,

Much more than I do in other parts of the world.

I think it's really getting in touch with a different part of yourself.

I think that most of us don't understand that there's really two parts to this business of being human,

This human equation.

One part is the physical and most of us live under the spell of matter.

We're so anchored in what we see with our senses and what we experience in the physical world that we've almost forfeited our ability to get into the dimension which causes that.

So the one part that's physical is the ego.

The ego is the part of us that says I'm important and I'm separate and I have to be proven right and I have to consume and I have to put a lot of attention on appearances and so on.

Whereas the sacred self or the sacred part of ourselves,

The aloha part of ourselves,

Is really the part that just wants us to be at peace and wants us to experience a sense of bliss.

And it's like really understanding,

It's like if you look around you at all the things that you observe in the world,

You notice your body and you notice it changing and you notice the physical world and all the changes that are taking place.

But the cause of everything in the physical world is not in the physical world.

Like I just had a friend who called me the other day and said they were expecting a baby and his wife is three weeks pregnant and he said that she's just like a couple centimeters long,

His little child.

And I said imagine everything that that child needs for the physical dimension,

For the physical journey that it's going to take,

It's already in there.

So that the cause of all of the things that are going to happen to it in all of the physical world are all handled for it already.

And it's in that invisible domain.

And once we learn how to get into that invisible domain,

That unseen dimension,

We can start really creating what I call miracles in our lives.

Well your book Real Magic of course talks a lot about that.

And your new book,

Your Sacred Self,

I've just got this book and I'm reading it now.

And it's a marvelous book.

It really talks about what we're talking about because what happens is in our world we're all kind of geared to thinking we want to be powerful,

We want to have money,

We want to feel safe and secure behind what we build up.

And we do build up a mask that goes with that.

You talk about removing the mask.

You have a great quote in the beginning of the book.

Something about I always wanted to be.

All my life I wanted to be somebody.

Now I'm finally somebody but it isn't me.

Yeah.

A lot of people have asked me what that means.

And what it really means is that when you discover who you really are,

You know when they ask Jesus and they ask Buddha the same question,

What is real?

How do we know what is real?

And they both answer the same.

Their answer was that is real which never changes.

And anything that is in the world of the changing isn't real.

So that if you look at your life and your body and your world and you ask yourself what part of me meets that criteria for being real?

You certainly know it isn't your body.

I mean we're all in different bodies that are shifting and changing all the time.

And we know it's not our thoughts.

Our thoughts are constantly changing.

So it's like finding the part of you that is changeless,

That is eternal.

And that is what I call the witness.

That's the eternal part of who you are.

So there's the two worlds that we're in are the world that we notice.

So everything around us that we notice is one world.

And then there's the noticer.

And the noticer is in there noticing.

And the noticer is ageless.

Like I was up in Boston just a few weeks ago and I was up there with my wife and I was running.

It was about 4 o'clock in the morning and we finished about 5.

30.

And there's a fence that's about this high,

About 4 feet off the ground.

And I ran up to the fence.

I was going to run back over to the hotel.

And I looked at that fence and I jumped right over the fence.

Jumped right over.

It's a good size jump.

Yeah.

And my wife looked at me and she said,

You can't do that.

I said you can't.

She said you're 55 years old.

You don't jump over fences when you're 55 years old.

I said,

Oh I forgot.

You see the part of me that wants to jump over fences,

The part of me that has been looking out and observing this whole journey that I'm on has never aged.

Not one bit.

It's in a dimension that is ageless.

And that's what the sacred part of us is.

It's like learning how to get into that part of ourselves and go there.

And once you can do that,

Then you can do these miracles.

Then you can begin to manage the coincidences of your life.

You can create the energy to have whatever you need show up for you in your life.

And most of us think that,

Most people think that they don't have the power to do that.

That oh that's something that God can do.

That's something that Jesus can do.

That's something that Buddha can do.

That's not anything.

I don't have that.

And most of us don't understand that we are the guru.

I mean it is within ourselves.

And most of us live in a paradigm that says it's outside of me.

And maybe it will be nice to me.

And maybe it will be kind to me if everything goes well.

There's something in our natures that always they're kind of afraid to show that other,

The real self,

The sacred self as you call it.

It's almost like we're taught that you should keep it secret or hidden because I guess all of our life we're spending all this time maintaining the things that are changing because they break all the time.

And they need more and more work especially as they get older.

Bodies and mechanics,

Etc.

But you really need to maintain and work and give almost as much energy to the other side of yourself that you don't see.

That is changing.

Well the side of you that you don't see,

That is the observer,

The witness,

Is the cause of everything in the physical world.

The physical world is like if I were to hand you an acorn and I say okay what will happen to this acorn if I plant it and water it?

You say well it will become in 50 years it will become a giant oak tree.

So you say well in that acorn then there's tree-ness.

There's something called tree-ness in that acorn.

Show them it to me.

And if you look at the acorn and you try to find a tree in there,

You can't find it.

The cause of the tree is in an unseen dimension.

You can't ever get a hold of that.

And the same thing is true with each and every one of us.

We don't make a decision every day that our hair is going to fall out or that the wrinkles are going to appear or that whatever.

These are all things that are taking place because of an unseen kind of dimension.

And most of us have forfeited our ability to get into that dimension which causes the physical world.

And that's where miracles come from.

When you get to the place in your life when you can say I am not what I observe,

I am the observer.

I'm not what I notice out there.

Okay that's just the way it is.

Emily Dickinson had this wonderful poem.

She said,

This quiet dust was gentlemen and ladies and lads and girls,

Was laughter and ability and sighing and frocks and curls.

You take a handful of dust and you look at it and you say,

This was,

That's what she's saying,

This was gentlemen and ladies.

And it's like if you look at yourself,

You know that that's where you're headed.

The physical you is headed to be quiet dust because everything in the physical world manifests,

Then it's here,

And then it goes.

But the observer,

The eternal part of us,

The spirit,

The soul,

Whatever you want to call it,

Is the part of us that is what causes and brings into what I call manifestation.

That's why I did this manifesting meditation teaching people how to literally manifest.

You know they said that Jesus Christ had the gift of fish and loaves which meant that he could manifest food from his consciousness.

He had what we call siddhi,

He lived in what we call siddhi consciousness which is what Sai Baba lives at.

And this is the consciousness where there's no time lag between having a thought and having it materialize into the physical world.

Now Christ also said through Saint John,

Even the least among you can do all that I have done and even greater things.

That you have that within you,

You have within you the capacity to do it,

But you have forfeited your ability to do so because you live under the spell of matter.

You think that this is your home,

That's why he said be in the world,

But not of the world.

This isn't your home,

This is just a place where you fill out the forms and go and do what you've got to do.

But who you truly are,

And see most people say,

Okay that's great,

But how do I get there?

How do I get into that other dimension?

And that's where you have to learn to get quiet.

That's why you have to learn to meditate.

Or you know,

Because God's one and only voice is silence,

And in order to experience what I'm talking about,

You have to be able to go within and get very,

Very quiet.

If you want to know about God,

Read the Bible,

Go to church,

Do all the things that you've been taught to do.

If you want to know God,

If you truly want to know God,

Then you have to go within,

You have to get silence,

And you have to get quiet.

Because that's where you'll discover it,

And it's within yourself that you'll discover it.

Where is that bridge between where we finally do go inside,

Gone from reading about it,

To experiencing it,

To taking it and seeing you as God?

And seeing you,

So I can get past that,

Getting angry if you could cut me off on a road when I'm in a hurry.

I've got to be somewhere.

Where do you make that connection where under the daily stress,

I don't swear at you for being rude to me?

And seeing you as God under the pressure,

Or being able to really sense the aloha under the stressful situations.

You have to really transcend the beliefs that you've had handed to you.

See,

Most of us are,

Jackson Brown had a wonderful song called For a Dancer back in the 70s.

It's one of my favorites.

I love Jackson Brown.

Just do the steps that you've been shown by everyone you've ever known until the dance becomes your very own.

And most of us are just dancers,

Dancing the steps that other people have shown us.

But he does say later in there that,

But in the end,

There is one dance you'll do alone.

And so in order to become like the choreographer of your life,

Not the dancer in your life,

And to live that aloha thing you're speaking about,

You have to get rid of all of the training that you've had.

I mean,

Just like if you don't have a story,

You don't have to live up to it.

So it's like you've got to get rid of your story.

Wow.

That's pretty inbred.

You were a counselor for years and years and years.

You did counseling.

And you know how strong we're always trained to believe what we see.

And as we grow up,

We build a very strong mask.

And you've seen what it does to people.

Our personalities are a lot of people's securities,

You know.

Yeah.

But if you want to reach heightened awareness,

If you want to reach a state where you can become your own miracle worker and literally get to know the sacred part of yourself and live a life of peace and a life of bliss,

You have to go beyond all of that.

You have to see,

You know,

You're not a woman.

I'm not a man.

You're not blonde.

I'm not brunette.

You're not a Jew.

You're not a Catholic.

And we have to understand that who we are is that divine unseen spirit that is just manifested in just different forms and that we're all connected.

You know,

In the Native American traditions,

They say that no tree has branches so foolish as to fight among themselves.

Hmm.

That's beautiful.

And no branches that would fight would destroy the tree.

So it's like when I say you've got to go out and you've got to erase your past,

That's what the first couple chapters of this book are about,

Really just getting rid of some of these ideas.

And there's a lot of tricks.

Your ego is pretty smart.

Well,

The ego is the part of you that wants to keep you rooted in this physical domain.

There's always some reason to,

You know.

It tells you you're important.

You're special.

Other people have to prove it.

You should be offended,

You know.

And when other people don't recognize you,

You have a right to be upset and all of that,

Whereas your sacred self says you just have to be at peace.

So that when you have a choice to be right,

Which is what your ego says,

You've got to be right.

You have no,

They're wrong.

Don't you understand?

When you have a choice to be right or to be kind,

Which is what your sacred self says,

Just be kind.

You don't have to be right.

You know,

The subtitle of this book is called Making the Decision to be Free.

And freedom means where you're no longer absorbed with yourself.

You're no longer self-absorbed.

So when you have a choice to be right or to be kind,

Just be kind.

So if you're sitting around at a table and your husband or your wife is saying something and they've just said something that you know is wrong.

You know,

They just say,

Well,

We paid $49 for this toaster.

We got a great deal on it.

It came on and you say,

And you know that we only paid $39 for it.

You know,

And not only that,

But you've got the receipt in your pocket,

You know,

So that you just can't wait for her to shut up so that you can make it wrong.

$10,

That's 10 points for the ego right there,

You know.

And so you pull out the form,

You look at it and you say,

Yeah,

We got a good deal on it.

And you put it back.

I mean,

That's what the sacred self says.

Just be kind.

Just be kind.

The ego says,

Be right.

Make other people wrong because that proves how important you are and how special you are.

And so half of this book is really written about taming the ego,

Getting rid of the ego.

But one of the big paradigms that we live under and that we've had foisted upon us is what religion organized,

What this attempt to organize spirituality have taught.

They say that God is something that is outside of you so that you always have to be praying to something that you are inferior to.

I don't know where that came from because it isn't what Christ was speaking about in the New Testament.

Before I wrote Your Sacred Self,

I went over and I read the New Testament beginning to end.

And when St.

Paul was in a prison chained to a Roman soldier,

He was writing to the Philippians.

Philippians 1,

Philippians 2.

And he was explaining to them and trying to tell them how to be,

What Christ really wanted of you.

This was years after his crucifixion.

And he said in there in Philippians 2,

The fifth and sixth verse,

He said,

Have in you the same mind as Christ Jesus,

Who being in the form of God,

Did not consider it robbery to be equal with God.

This is what he's telling,

This is right out of the New Testament.

Where we got this idea that somehow that God is something outside of ourselves.

So the way I see God is I see God as like the ocean.

Maui is a good place to do it.

God is the ocean.

And then you take a glass of water and you dip it into the ocean.

You say,

What is this?

What's in here?

You would say,

Well it's ocean.

So it's God.

Now it's not as big and it's not as strong and it's not as powerful,

But it is still ocean,

Isn't it?

I mean you can't deny that,

It is still God.

And that's how you have to see yourself.

You have to see yourself as an extension of God.

It is within you.

You are it,

It is you.

Have in you that same mind.

Being in the form of God.

It's not robbery to consider yourself equal with God.

Once you get that,

Once you understand it,

And can go quietly into that space within yourself,

Where you begin to discover that yes,

I have this within myself.

I can in fact manifest what it is I want from my life.

I have the power to heal.

Not only myself,

But the power to heal others.

I have the power to radiate love everywhere in the world.

And you were talking about like,

I don't get mad at you,

You know,

When someone is passing me,

Or being rude to me and so on.

The way that you get past that need of your ego to be right,

Is that I used to use an example of an orange.

If you take an orange and you squeeze the orange as hard as you can squeeze it,

And I say,

Well what will come out?

You would say,

Well,

Orange juice,

Right?

I mean,

You're not going to get apple juice,

You're not going to get mango juice,

You're always going to get orange juice.

And if I say,

Even to a first grader,

Why?

When you squeeze an orange,

Do you get orange juice?

You say,

That's what's inside,

It's an orange.

What's the matter with you,

Daddy?

It's an orange.

Fine.

Then you extend the metaphor to yourself.

And someone squeezes you.

That is,

Someone goes to pass you,

Someone gets angry at you,

Someone says something that you don't like.

And out of you comes hatred,

Anger,

Bitterness,

Jealousy,

Rage,

Fear,

Tension,

Stress.

All of that stuff comes out of you.

It isn't because of who did the squeezing,

It's because that's what's inside.

And if you don't have that inside,

If you just don't have that inside,

Then when someone squeezes you,

As they did Jesus,

As they did Buddha,

They squeeze them all the time.

Out comes God.

Out comes God.

Forgive them.

They don't know what they did.

That's a good point.

That's a nice analogy.

So,

It's like then,

What you do is you just start,

You just,

So you say,

Okay,

How does orange juice get inside an orange?

You say,

I don't know,

I give up.

I can't do it.

Okay?

I give God the credit for that and I just enjoy the oranges that come.

But I know how anger and stress and tension and bitterness and fear and all of these things get inside of me through the way that I think.

So I start processing the world differently so that I can substitute love.

See,

The ego is always based on fear.

You know,

Fear based,

It's like you don't have enough.

And insecurity in a way.

Yeah,

But that's still fear.

The opposite of fear is love.

Okay?

So,

Jerry Jampolsky,

Who I just talked to just before we did this interview,

Wrote a book called Love is Letting Go of Fear.

So,

If you understand that about yourself,

So that the opposite of fear is not courage.

Because a lot of times when you have courage,

You're scared to death.

The opposite of fear is just unknowing.

As it says in A Course in Miracles,

If you knew,

It doesn't say if you believe,

Because a belief is something that's handed to you from outside of you so it has doubt attached to it.

It says if you knew who walked beside you at all times on this path that you have chosen,

You could never experience fear again.

So once you know you're not alone,

And once you know you have that divine energy with you,

And that it is not something that's outside of you,

It is with you,

Once you know that,

Then there's nothing to fear.

And the great spiritual masters that I've been around in my life,

And I've been fortunate,

I've been blessed to have been taught by some very beautiful,

Profound people,

The several things I notice about them,

But one of the most important things I notice is that they don't have any fear.

They don't live in fear.

They're in the moment,

They're very childlike.

And most important,

They're not consumed with whether you like them or don't like them.

So that's a humbleness too then.

Yes.

Instead of the Rolls Royces and all the things that sometimes.

.

.

Instead of appearances.

Yeah,

So the appearance is just them being able to be themselves,

Which is really the God self.

Well,

I remember Maslow saying when I asked him,

What is self-actualization?

What do you mean by that?

Because I call it,

And here I call it heightened awareness,

Because I think it goes beyond self-actualization.

He said self-actualization can be broken down to one sentence.

He said it's being independent of the good opinion of other people.

But you know,

That's so hard,

Because it seems like everything we're fed on TV and in the movies,

It's all image,

And more than ever our children want to look right,

They want to be right in everything.

I mean,

I grew up in Beverly Hills,

It's all like,

Okay,

Are you dressed right?

Are you hip enough to be accepted?

It's all based on the outward image,

You know?

So people tend to judge by that image,

Rather than what they're really.

.

.

They can't get past that mess to see inside the other person.

It's almost like,

Are you good enough to be part of this game or not,

You know?

It's amazing how easy it is when you find the sacred in yourself.

It's amazing how easy it is,

And especially when you're around people who are not.

.

.

You know,

One of the great teachers in my life was Nisargadatta Maharaj,

Who I quote frequently in here.

He was this humble man who had given up everything,

And he was really a master,

A city consciousness.

He had the gift of fish and loaves.

He could manifest as well.

And a woman came to him who had cancer,

And she came from London.

She was a school teacher.

She was very upset,

Very depressed.

She said,

I suffer.

And he said to her,

You don't suffer.

He said,

Only the person you imagine yourself to be is suffering.

And she said,

You mean to tell me you don't have any problems?

I mean,

Right away she wanted to make him wrong.

Her ego was in it.

And he said,

No.

He said,

I don't have any problems,

And neither do you.

He said,

Your body has problems,

But you don't have any problems.

He was making a distinction between her body and her.

And then she said,

But look,

There's war going on in Pakistan just 300 miles from here,

And there's a lot of starvation in your country.

You can't tell me that this doesn't trouble you.

And he said,

He had a great affirmation.

He said,

Ma'am,

He said,

In my world,

Nothing ever goes wrong.

Like when you become the observer,

You start to know that this is all in order.

And your immediate response to that is,

You know,

This is very difficult,

This is a struggle.

You know,

I grew up in Beverly Hills,

And I know,

I've been around that scene a good hunk of my life.

And it's just,

It's like when you get independent of the good opinion of other people,

It's not like,

Maslow used to give this test,

This was great.

He would say,

It's a self-actualizing being,

Right,

A person who's really living at this heightened level of awareness,

Arrives at a cocktail party,

And everybody is dressed formally,

Formal attire,

Black tie,

Gowns,

And he's got tennis shoes on,

And a pair of jeans,

And a t-shirt.

And he says,

What would he do?

And then he gives this test,

And everybody's to write down what he would do.

And everybody argues for,

Well,

He's independent,

He wouldn't go home,

He wouldn't change,

He wouldn't let it bother them,

And he would have this great discussion.

He'd say,

No,

He said,

None of you got it.

The answer is,

He wouldn't notice.

That's interesting.

I like that.

Now try to imagine anybody you've ever met not noticing.

So it's like Joel Goldsmiths used to say,

You have to look into another human being,

And you have to see the unfolding of God in that being.

Not the appearance,

Not what they're wearing,

Not their body,

You know,

Not their weight,

Not their hair,

Not their face,

Not whether they're Italian or Jewish,

Or whether their nose is big,

Or whether they're,

You know,

Whatever,

Whether they've got big breasts,

Or whether you like to look past that.

And it isn't like you say,

Well,

I'm really self-actualized.

So I notice that these people have all got these nice clothes on,

But because I'm self-actualized,

It's like you don't,

You just,

That isn't where you are.

It's a different consciousness,

It's a different place.

One of the great teachers in my life was Carl Jung.

And Carl Jung said that.

.

.

Marvelous teacher.

Yeah,

He said that there are four levels that adults go through,

All right.

And here are the four levels.

He said the lowest level is what he called the athlete.

And the athlete,

He said,

He wasn't putting down athletes or athletics,

He was putting.

.

.

He said this is the stage in your adult life when you put your primary identification on how strong you are,

How big you are,

How fast you can throw something,

How attractive you are,

How pretty you are,

All of those kinds.

That becomes your primary motivation.

He said then you move up to what he called the stage of the warrior.

And this is where you take your physical prowess and you go out into the world and you get consumed with your own quotas.

What's in it for me,

What can I get,

I've got to compete,

I've got to collect,

I've got to compare,

I've got to achieve.

And there's all of that goal setting,

There's that time in your life,

Okay.

Then he said if you get past that,

Which you do,

He said the third stage is the stage that he called the statesman.

And this is when you take your life and instead of saying what are my quotas,

You ask what are yours.

How may I serve becomes your mantra.

And this is where you're at right now?

Well,

A big part of my life is on that.

A big part of my life is on that.

The ego still plays a role in that,

But it's much tamer than it was a few years ago.

It does,

You can tame it after a while.

Oh,

Absolutely.

So this third stage is like the stage of serving,

You know,

So you're not interested any longer.

And this has nothing to do with chronology or how old you are.

But he said the highest stage,

The fourth stage that we get to,

Is the stage called the spiritualist.

And this is the stage when you have a recognition that you're none of the previous three.

You dump all that,

Yeah.

You dump it.

You're not a human being having a spiritual experience.

You're a spiritual being having a human experience.

And you are the noticer,

You are the observer,

You're not a statesman,

You're not a warrior,

You're not an athlete.

You are a divine being who has this curriculum to God,

This body,

This career,

This time,

And you are eternal.

And in that sense,

You are generous and you are loving and you are kind.

And that's how,

That is the way that you are in your life.

And the best example I ever heard of it is like it's beyond serving.

I was in a,

I had the blessings of being in a room with Mother Teresa.

And she,

I believe,

Is a saint.

I really do,

Walking among us,

Teaching us.

She said,

I see Jesus Christ in all of his distressing disguises in the streets of Calcutta.

That's a good,

Very good description,

In all of his distressing disguises.

And this is an interesting story,

Cindy.

She was in a radio show there with me in Phoenix,

Arizona,

K-T-A-R.

And Pat McMahon is the host,

He's on in the morning.

And he said to her,

Outside the,

Before they went on the air,

He said,

Is there anything I can do for you,

Mother Teresa?

And she's like 4'10".

She weighs maybe 85 pounds.

She has wrinkles everywhere.

She's got moles with hairs growing out of them.

She's,

You know,

It's not the least bit concerned with appearances at all.

She's just this tiny,

But she radiates a kind of kind.

So very much like Buddha and Christ,

Who's,

You know,

They said that when they would go to a village,

They would raise the consciousness of the village just by their presence.

She's like that.

And he said,

She said,

No,

There's nothing that you can do,

Pat.

And he said,

He was flabbergasted,

Because he's a building,

His ego is what is operating here.

He said,

Well,

You know,

He said,

We've got a 50,

000-watt radio station here.

We could perhaps go on the air and do some publicity for you.

And she said,

No,

We don't need any publicity for what I'm doing.

She said,

Publicity isn't what it's about.

And he was shocked.

He said,

Well,

I know we could do a fundraiser,

And I'm sure we could raise several hundred thousand dollars if we could get people.

And so would that,

Could I do that?

And she said,

We don't need any money.

Oh.

She said,

It's not about money.

She said,

What we're doing has nothing to do with money.

And so he said,

Well,

I feel so helpless and so hopeful.

I mean,

Isn't there anything I can do?

She said,

Pat,

If you really want to do something,

She said,

Tomorrow morning,

Get up at 4 a.

M.

And go out into the streets of Phoenix and find someone who believes that he's alone and convince him that he's not.

Ooh.

I bet he didn't do it.

That's what you can do.

Yeah.

Oh.

See,

That's how someone at this fourth level lives their life.

Well,

We're out of time,

Wayne,

But it's been absolutely marvelous.

Thank you.

It's always a pleasure seeing you.

Thank you.

God bless you.

I'm talking to you.

God bless you.

And I'm looking forward to your next time here so we can visit again.

Thank you.

And I hope people have gotten something from your wonderful discourse.

Thank you.

I know people sometimes can catch you at Unity Churches because you do have naked experience there.

Probably speaking at the Unity Church here probably,

Well,

Sometime this summer.

Great.

That's all the time we have for Living Aloha.

I really hope you enjoyed our special conversation with Wayne Dyer.

And I hope you can remember some of this and put it into life so we can all live aloha.

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