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Excerpted from Dharma Dialogues with Catherine Ingram. Recorded in Lennox Head, Australia in September 2018. From the opening talk: “In his essay ‘How To Grow Old’, Bertrand Russell wrote: "The best way to overcome the fear of death, so at least it seems to me, is to make your interests gradually wider and more impersonal, until bit by bit the walls of the ego recede, and your life becomes increasingly merged in the universal life." ”