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Excerpted from Dharma Dialogues with Catherine Ingram. Recorded in Lennox Head, Australia in May 2018. From the opening talk: “I was on the phone with one of my friends yesterday, and she said that she had a dharma question for me. She asked what I thought of the notion of the awareness of awareness that a lot of teachers speak about, that there is an awareness that knows that you are aware.”