Daniel Mangena On The Many Dimensions Of Abundance

Amrit interviews Daniel Mangena, manifestation coach, international speaker, entrepreneur, podcaster, and bestselling author. He is the CEO of Dream With Dan. Daniel and Amrit, talk about how to manifest abundance, the meaning of ”stop meditating”, how important courage is and the importance of being grateful before things happen and how to do that.

Transcript

Welcome to this week's episode of the inspired evolution.

You're inspired and you're evolving.

Welcome,

You're definitely in the right place y'all.

So we have on with us Dan Menjena.

Dan is a,

How do I put this?

He's dreamer CEO,

Dreaming and bringing in things to life.

So entrepreneurship mixed with abundance coaching is probably the best way to put it.

So yeah,

How to manifest abundance.

We talk a lot about the actual doing,

But this conversation is about some of the little rubs that we get caught up in when you're talking about manifestation.

Obviously like,

You know,

He talks about one of his things is stop meditating,

Which people are like throwing,

Going up in arms about.

They say,

Hey,

It's not about stopping meditating.

It's like,

Don't just meditate really.

Like you've got to then impact your belief systems.

You've got to go out and create something in the world and taking those actions.

We talk about how important courage really is when your visions are so huge.

What role does that play?

We talk about the importance of being grateful for things before they even arrive and how to actually do that.

And he talks,

It's a bit sciencey about how actually we drop in with gratitude to actually call things in in a really good way.

How me being grateful now in advance for what's coming actually manifests it faster,

Better,

Stronger,

But actually the science of like how,

Like if that's not making sense,

You need to tune into the episode to make heads and tails of that one.

And yeah,

Fundamentally it's not just financial abundance.

It's multi-dimensional abundance is what he's talking about.

It's your health,

Your wealth,

Your relationships,

Your relationship with nature.

So yeah,

It's a beautiful episode.

Tune in,

I know you're gonna be taking something gorgeous away from this one.

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It's gonna be a moment where you can be like,

Boom,

That was awesome.

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I think it's all angel just walked by.

I,

I,

Hair goes aside from my soul.

Yay!

Welcome to the inspired evolution and it is an abundant treat to be here today.

We have with us Dan McDonagh.

Dan,

How are you?

I was waiting for the yay!

Even though I knew it was coming,

It still caught me off guard.

It's different when you've got the headphones right in your ears and I'm doing it right with my bike and I'm like,

I should really do something about that.

I just don't know what to do.

No,

No,

No.

Bring it,

Bring it,

Bring it,

Bring it.

It's ridiculousness that is me.

Dancing in the energy of the old.

For those tuning in to Dan for the first time,

Guys,

He's an entrepreneur.

He's a host of two podcasts.

He's,

There's multiple businesses that have happened in the past and I'm looking forward to getting stuck into them.

He's an international speaker.

He's a best-selling author.

A couple of really awesome books.

Beyond Intention sounds really awesome as well,

Bro.

Happy to dive into what's going on into some of that.

But honestly,

Man,

Just thank you so much for doing this today and being here with us.

Thank you.

Thanks for having me,

Man.

I've been excited for this for a little while since we first met and thanks to Carly for making it happen.

Yo,

Sister bear!

I've been helping sister Carly.

Yep.

Awesome.

Bro,

I want to tune,

Like we could start in so many places.

There's so much that you're up to in the world but I really just want to sort of hit the,

You know,

Sometimes call it the gooey bit inside.

I don't know why I call it the gooey bit,

But like abundance.

There's so much that you're doing around the work of abundance.

What does abundance really mean to you?

So for me,

Abundance is,

It's the overflow that comes from all my needs being met and more.

But so often we just get caught up in one dynamic of abundance.

A lot of people,

I'm abundant in my health,

But your money's crap.

So that helps not gonna last very long.

Oh yeah,

I've got all the relationships in the world.

Yeah,

But your health's wack.

So what's going to happen with that?

And so it's just bringing people to what we've started to call now in my community,

The seven figure life.

So not just a bank account,

But health relationships,

Meaning fulfillment purpose,

All of it just being yummy,

Sexy,

And wonderful.

We just happen to use money as the measuring stick for working out where we're at because it's tangible.

If I go out to manifest happiness,

Maybe I'm happy,

Maybe I'm not.

If I go out to manifest a thousand dollars and it shows up,

It's showing up,

It worked,

It didn't show up.

Okay,

Something needs to be tweaked.

So we use money as this measuring stick for where we're at,

But it's not the be all and end all.

It's just the riding's high that we use to lift all the boats of abundance across the board in our life.

I love it,

I love it.

And so there's multiple different,

So instead of just what I'm hearing is,

It's not just about financial abundance,

It's about health abundance,

Relationship abundance.

But the key thing that I'm hearing is like,

It's almost like the litmus test is the financial abundance.

You can really tell what's going on with your finances because it's a bit more black and white.

If you're not abundant in any area,

You're not abundant.

I've not got abundance in my bank account and not in my health.

No,

You're not abundant.

You're a person who's not abundant that happens to have money like that.

For me,

Having money in the account isn't even what makes you rich.

Richeness is not just one area,

It's all over.

Everything is yummy.

A lot of people are out there with great health,

But you can't pay the bills.

That's not a good look.

We need to be at a place where we're able to,

And resourced to have agency in all areas of our life.

And abundance,

Which is our birthright,

Is a natural state that we can step into.

And again,

We just use money as the measuring stick to see where we're at in relationship to that.

How did you,

When did this first precipitate into your consciousness?

Wow,

That's like a very spiritual sort of way for you.

Into my consciousness,

What it happened when I was at the Redubu in school.

When did the notice open?

When did this whole abundance become,

Because at a certain point,

I know you were doing some amazing things.

I think you made your first move by the age of 20.

So safe to say you're already abundant.

Were you holding the intention of abundance at that stage?

Or were you just kind of kicking along?

Yeah,

Cool.

Can you tell us a little bit about that?

And then at what point did it sort of go,

Oh,

Abundance,

And then the multi-dimensionality of abundance,

Which you're talking about now?

So the old abundance was definitely after I clawed everything back,

Having lost everything twice by the age of 23.

Went through the whole suicide thing,

Which we'll probably get into when we talk more about beyond intention.

And then getting on the other side and being like,

Oh,

This feels yummy across the board.

I'm at peace.

I'm not stressed out.

Like I can actually enjoy the wealth I'm creating.

And then that went up a different level when I moved away from my consulting business and came into the work I do now because there's this extra yummy depth of purpose and service and just being in harmony with expanding more people into being in a place where they can actually live more purposefully.

So it kind of evolved over time.

But when I first got into it,

I taught myself to make computers when I was 13 years old.

I had a touch shop.

I was that kid that had the car washing service when it was like seven or whatever.

I was always about it.

And I remember probably as early as 11,

12,

Maybe 13 years old,

Just knowing I'm gonna be a millionaire.

There wasn't like any doubt around it.

And I was always on the road there.

So me getting to that point wasn't,

Like nobody was surprised.

Nobody in my life was surprised.

So even when I lost everything the first time,

The first business that we set out to do basically didn't have it all right licensing.

And so we ended up getting shot down by the government because we didn't have all the right licensing for our business.

I was just like,

Okay,

Cool.

But again,

There was no doubt.

So there was just completely an utter certainty about my capacity to move forward and create.

So I went and created again.

The next time everything got stolen by people,

That kind of shook me.

That's the one that shook me up and sent me down into a dark spiral.

But adding the layers of depth of what it means to be more than just the money,

Because when you've had the money and you didn't have the peace of mind and you didn't really feel good,

Or you kind of,

Yeah,

Cool.

And coming into money the third time,

I did at first have a lot of fears like,

Oh,

Something goes wrong,

What if this happens?

And moving beyond that and really feeling,

Oh,

Now I've got that peace of mind,

Having good relationships,

Great friendships,

Great connections with my family and doing something that I love.

That's definitely when we started to get to more of a,

A really holistic,

Whole,

Abundant place,

I would say.

I love that.

Yeah,

One of my favorite quotes is Jim Carrey where he sits there and he goes,

I really wish everybody on the earth could be famous and rich so you can figure out that it's not fucking it.

You know,

I'm paraphrasing,

But you've got to be.

Yeah,

Whatever.

And it's gorgeous.

And I think,

You know,

Your story,

As you shared it so briefly there,

Like,

Illuminates that.

You know,

It's like,

We'll get to the point where it's like,

Yes,

You have it.

But then it's like,

You know,

It'll,

It may slip through when it's not everything.

There was still this robustness in your abundance,

The multidimensionality of abundance that you're referring to.

Brother,

To put things into a little bit more context,

Like,

Yeah,

You mentioned,

Yeah,

You mentioned the word suicide and I don't really want to like open it up if it's not comfortable for you to go there,

But I'd love to sort of.

.

.

It's comfortable I talk about it.

You know,

I write about it,

I speak about it.

We'll find out a little bit more about what was going on there and then why was it that intention is what emerged through there.

Can you tell us a little bit?

Yeah.

So one of the most powerful lessons I've had in my life through this whole experience,

This whole journey,

Is how much fricking we wait,

How much weight we put on our beliefs about what other people think about us.

Yeah.

Right?

Yeah.

And then how much of our identity we don't have a conscious relationship to,

So when something from outside takes away a part of our identity,

We get lost because there's nothing left because everything we had is the shell.

Yeah,

Yeah.

Right?

And so I came to a place where I literally had no identity left because it was wrapped up in being the guy who made it,

Who had cracked the code.

I was so young and I cracked the code.

Yeah,

But you haven't because you broke again.

Right?

And this time it was public and it was awful and it was ugly.

And people are laughing at you saying,

Oh,

You thought you were so clever,

But we've got your money now,

So what have you got to say about that?

Right?

And there was just a mess and there was this tidal wave of crap.

Everywhere and I'm sitting there,

I'm saying,

Shit,

Have I been delusional?

Because I was into like consciousness.

It wasn't really called manifesting when I first got into stuff.

The secret is what kind of brought up the manifesting word.

I was into conscious creation.

I read Think and Grow Rich when I was 17 years old.

I was into this kind of stuff and very,

Very young.

So I've been around this stuff for like 20 years.

By then I was like,

Maybe,

I don't know,

Eight or nine years deep into everything.

I was like,

Have I been deluded?

Have I literally been delusional?

Because I'm looking at my life right now and this doesn't look like any of this stuff was true at all.

But I was like,

But it was this conflict,

But it has to be right up to a certain point because you made it,

But it didn't stay.

And there was this whole thing of,

Do you know what,

Screw all this.

I can't,

This is too much.

I want it out.

I'm done.

I've got nothing left to contribute.

I've got no identity left.

What do I have to offer anyone?

I walked away from my education because I thought I don't need it.

I'm going to go and be an entrepreneur.

I was like,

Let's just check out.

And so I actually went off on this journey.

This is the crazy thing.

I determined that I was going to work out what was wrong just to the point that I can commit suicide and pull it off successfully.

That was my mission.

I wasn't trying to crack the code so that I could build my life back up again.

I'm like,

Well,

This thing works to a certain point.

And I went to start plotting a suicide attempt and I just felt this ickiness.

It's like,

If I screw this up,

I'm just going to be that fuck boy that couldn't even kill himself properly.

I can't have that.

I can't have,

In a hospital with my stomach pumped or like,

Because it's the UK,

You can't go and get a gun and put it to your temple,

Right?

Try and hang yourself.

Someone might cut you down.

They're going to have to pull you down.

Who's going to,

I didn't want to be a bother to anyone.

I just wanted it out.

So I said,

Okay,

I need to deal with this so that I've got enough belief in myself and sufficient manifesting power,

Conscious creation power.

So when I pull off this suicide,

I don't want to bother anyone.

I just kind of just want to fade away.

So you wanted to consciously create your exit.

Wow,

Dude,

Jesus.

Without really bothering anyone.

And that was the thing.

I didn't want to bother anyone.

I didn't want there to be any pomp and parade.

I just wanted to just out.

And that's what started the journey that I'm on now,

Interestingly enough.

And so what happened?

Obviously you didn't successfully take off.

I didn't do that.

I didn't do that one.

Thank God.

Thank God.

Yeah,

Having this conversation.

Yeah.

And you know what?

That's why when people come to me now,

They're like,

I'm such a dark place at this,

And I'm like,

Dude,

Trust me,

It doesn't matter how bad things are right now.

You can still be inspired and be a part of the revolution.

It doesn't matter.

Because the thing is,

Is that that story that you're telling yourself is only happening because you're at a certain place vibrationally and emotionally.

And that's feeding into your mind and telling you this is what's going on and give you the stories that you're running on,

Which are feeding back into your emotional state,

Which is feeding back into your mind,

Which is feeding into your habits and behaviours.

But there are points that we can interject and change the story.

And I did it by accident.

I accidentally programmed myself out of suicide.

And the way that happened was.

Yeah,

I had that happen,

Yeah.

I needed to know what was wrong with the manifesting.

So I went back through everything that I'd read,

Books I hadn't read,

I was listening to tapes.

I was learning to transliterate Arabic and Hebrew so I could go into ancient texts and see who was telling me bullshit and who was not.

So I could get to the truth because I had to get this right.

But I was spending hours a day doing nothing but that.

For a couple of years,

All I was doing was having discussions with people about this,

Reading about this,

Watching things about this,

Listening to things about this.

My mind got positively pummelled by positivity and had no choice but to respond to the inputs until it changed.

I didn't wake up one morning and say,

I don't want to kill myself anymore.

I kind of just woke up and realised,

Oh shit,

I've been rebuilding my life and I kind of like it.

Okay,

I guess we're doing this now.

And when the depression tries to keep back in,

Which anyone who suffered the depression knows it doesn't go away,

It sort of hits back on resource.

And I've got a different narrative and I've got the anxiety that I've got and I've got the evidence that it's not all hopeless.

There is some light at the end of the tunnel.

Yeah,

It's interesting that,

Thank you so much for sharing that bro,

That you really went there.

Thank you for sharing that with us.

I,

Yeah,

The depression piece is interesting,

Isn't it?

Because I struggled with depression in my past quite a time ago.

And there's a quote that is always just sort of,

It's one of those quotes that you want to just keep at arm's length,

But you never really want to look at really closely,

But you kind of know that there's like this harrowing kind of truth in it,

But it's,

It's like this,

You never really shed your demons,

But you learn to live above them.

Which I was just like,

Oh,

Oh,

Oh,

Go away,

Go away.

This quote can just,

No,

Just,

Just no.

It's like right there,

It's like,

You know,

It's one of those ones you really want to forget.

And it's just like,

Stay with me.

Why are you still there,

Bro?

Yeah,

Yeah,

So it's,

Yeah,

It's interesting.

It's really interesting.

So what I'm hearing there is that you,

The intention was to sort of figure out abundance and conscious creation to the point where you could consciously create your exit.

And then as you go on that journey of consciously creating your exit,

The conscious creation hasn't failed because you didn't create your exit.

Actually what's happened as a consequence of the conscious construction,

The manifestation,

The calling it in,

You've actually transformed,

Right?

So you've transformed despite your intentions.

So what have you transformed in alignment to?

And you're so,

I love that you've brought this differentiation because this is a big part of the work that I do with people.

Now it's understanding that so many people are chasing after something consciously and losing sight of the fact that your conscious intention is never what shows up.

It's whatever's sitting in your unconscious.

So I had this conscious intention of the exit,

But the unconscious was being repopulated and transformed and transmuted against the inputs into choosing life.

So even though I was chasing death up here,

Chasing the exit,

Life was just bubbling up under the circumstances till it consumed it and then washed that way.

I love that because even what I find as a purpose coach,

I often tell people it's kind of this,

There's this really annoying rub sometimes being the purpose coach,

Because it's like,

You're actually never off purpose.

Like,

You've eventually landed here in a conversation with a purpose coach to help you just kind of flunk,

Like take that last little epic little step,

Where it's like,

Boom,

Like we totally got this and you can create what you wanna create.

And it's like,

At that point it's like,

But you know,

Like all those challenges even were leaving you up until this particular juncture that helps you to do it.

Everything is perfect.

Right?

It's this really,

Yeah,

So I'm hearing the rub that you're sharing.

So now we're in this space of the subconscious,

This ether,

This black hole,

Which is the emmanebulist.

It's like,

How much does it weigh?

Drop those on in there.

I don't know,

I don't know what to eat,

I don't know.

How much,

How much,

How much,

How much,

How much?

I don't know what to eat,

I don't know.

So how do we,

What do we do with this thing?

How do we reprogram?

Because obviously you've unconsciously programmed your subconscious by consciously attacking yourself to just the right thing by some grace of God,

Which grace of God,

Whatever you wanna call it,

I call it God,

Just me.

The universe for some people is more preferable.

Wherever the thing is.

How,

How like this dance,

Like understanding,

Do you help people reprogram their subconscious,

Their unconscious?

And how do we go about doing something like that if we do?

And that's what the work's become now,

Right?

Because for a long time after that,

I was really scared about working with other people again.

I was like,

Okay,

I've got this little bubble of safe reality where like,

I had my nice house in London.

Like I was in a place with Highgate.

I don't know if you or any of the listeners know,

But I had like a lovely conversion and like I'm a duplex.

So I had some nice watches.

I had my tailor.

I fly first class a few times in New York a year,

A few times in Dubai,

Hang out with my mates and everything's lovely.

The office is in Mayfair.

We're doing good figures.

Like,

Why am I going to bring anybody into this?

I didn't even want to bring a girlfriend into it.

Like I was like,

I just date.

I don't want anything in my space.

I just want to come in.

Like you can stay over there,

Babe.

Yeah,

Honestly.

But then the thing is,

Is that going back over this journey,

Cause I had part and parcel of my healing,

Definitely was tracking this journey of wanting to write more about this.

I'd actually been writing several iterations of what now is stepping beyond intention by one of my best-selling books,

But it was tracking the phases that I went through.

Because for me,

I discovered that I had Asperger's when I was 27 and a big part of learning to tap into my supervisor.

I need things to be structured.

So for me to be settled in what I'm living now,

I needed a framework that I could use to ensure that I could come back to this consciously and I didn't float back into.

So the four steps of beyond intention emerged from me looking back over the phases and things I'd gone through in order to get to where I was.

And those are the four steps of accept,

Clear,

Gratitude,

And listen.

And so that became something that I kept cycling through when challenges come.

And then every now and then we'd speak to people and then,

Yeah,

Try this.

Oh,

That really works.

And that's how I kind of ended up getting dragged into the work that I do now at first,

Because people that did get a sniff of this work are seeing that it worked.

But ultimately changing your mind,

People think that there's heavy work to it.

Did you wake up this morning with the mindset that you have right now?

Did you go and buy a course on Instagram on how to,

No,

You didn't,

Your mind just became,

And it became because it's a natural by-product of the inputs.

So when you start to develop a conscious relationship to what's going on inside of you,

Which is easy,

Look at your environment,

Your environment doesn't like the perfect reflection of your emotions and your belief systems.

Where are you at most of the time?

There you go,

Got a road map to where your beliefs are.

And then you can start to just backtrack,

Okay,

Well,

This is where I want to be.

This is where my sole purpose is leading me to.

Okay,

So what inputs are supporting the emotional state that exists within that intention?

And then just flood your life with those inputs and your mind will change.

Your unconscious will change because it just honors the inputs.

That's it,

It's not complicated.

Right,

So you just consistently change the inputs through your environment,

Through potentially content you consume as well.

Would that be- That's part of the environment,

Like what's going in?

What are those inputs?

Who you hanging out with?

What are you saying to yourself?

I had an ex who wouldn't let broken plates or chip things in the house because she wouldn't have lack.

I'm abundant,

Why am I going to keep broken things in the house?

That's my act of abundance.

Yeah,

This lack thing is really interesting,

Isn't it?

I,

Sorry,

I'm just sort of taking a tangent.

Go for it,

There's tangent all over the place.

We're super deep and I'm just tangenting out,

But I'll just allow the kids.

I just want to be a satellite for the moment.

Yeah.

There's,

Yeah,

There's this,

Every time someone says,

I want this now,

I want,

All I hear is,

I lack.

And this is really interesting that this precipitated,

Like I wasn't calling in like abundance,

But I've just really started,

Cause working with people it's like,

I want to do this and I want to do that and I want to achieve this.

And all I'm hearing is I lack this and I lack this and I lack that.

And it's like,

Mm,

Like mm.

There's gotta be a reframe in there.

Like it doesn't,

You don't really need to want it.

Like,

You know,

You already have it.

You can already see it.

Like the fact that you see this,

Because I look at,

I look at Dan and I see abundance,

Right?

Someone else look at Dan,

Someone see business.

Someone else look at Dan,

Someone see kindness,

Right?

So everybody looks at Dan and gets what they want from him.

Like everybody looks at the same thing,

Gets a different thing.

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder,

Right?

Indeed,

Indeed.

So if you're looking at it and say,

I want,

It's like,

Well,

This is what's calling me potentially,

Rather than want and lack this idea of,

And yeah,

I think I just want to kind of go there because it's a perfect opportunity to speak to someone such as yourself.

This thing around wanting and how to,

I wouldn't say not want,

But how to heal the lack within the want.

So here's a really cool thing that we do with our guys.

First of all,

I'll give you a Danism,

Right?

So here's a Danism.

Yo.

I'm excited,

Grateful and appreciative what I have now.

And I'm excited about what's going to come next.

There's a subtlety there that really speaks to the way that we approach this,

Which is first and foremost,

We have all of our guys interrogate their intentions through the heart.

We interrogate from the heart because the mind wants,

The heart gets excited about it.

Right?

I'm excited about,

Do you agree,

What's it?

Whatever the thing is,

Like having a home that I've got space to have all my loved ones in.

Because when you look at the thing,

Look at why you want the thing,

Challenge why you want the thing,

I've got a massive family.

So for me,

Having a bigger home is having space for my massive family to come and stay with me or to have friends over.

It's not,

I want a massive house so I can be Johnny Big Bullocks.

It's got the massive home and everyone's going to see my house and know how great I am.

Like,

No,

That's not what it is.

I live in a beautiful place because I love to be here.

Not because I want to live in this place so everyone can see that I'm Johnny Big Bullocks and I've got the beautiful place.

Like the energy between the two is completely different.

Right?

My soul is excited to have a space where I can have my loved ones.

My soul is excited to have more abundance because I've got some kick-ass stuff that I want to do in the world and I get to do in the world because I've got more choice because of the abundance in my life.

I'm excited about that.

I don't want it.

It's mine.

And I'm excited to get to it.

There's a very,

Very,

Very subtle difference.

And when people start cleaning their intentions by just having that conversation,

Like where did this desire come from?

It didn't come from you.

It came because you were watching Beverly Hills 90210 and you saw the thing and then you got triggered by the thing as a society said that you're not a real man or you're not a real woman unless you have the thing.

That's here.

It's not got the heart-centered charge that's even going to bring it into your experience anyway.

And even if it does come and it's going to come at a cost,

It's going to take away from your abundance.

Versus chewing into the heart,

Seeing what God wants to experience through your eyes,

Your mouth,

Your ears,

And your hands,

And stepping fully into the embodiment of being the vessel of the divine that's going to experience that and get excited about it.

That's when you're going to love your life.

You're going to love what comes in.

It's going to come and it's going to stay.

It's going to feel fulfilling.

You're going to be more at peace because you're not chasing after stuff that the world's told you that you need.

Because we don't need anything.

We want some things.

And the divine can express a desire to experience things through you,

Dive into that.

And that's where true abundance is,

I believe.

So Brother Bear,

Tuning into that one.

Yeah,

There's so much that society sort of packs on and I get it,

Like in a capitalistic machine,

It's just really helpful for the machine itself to have us wanting,

Right?

And like,

So that we can continue to put money.

Everyone gets the hustle.

Yeah,

Totally.

So,

And I think this comes back to where I initially asked you,

What does abundance mean to you?

And I love the overflowingness of everything and the multidimensionality of everything.

So to bring that home to the listener,

To myself,

What I'm hearing right now at this juncture in the conversation is an invitation to define our abundance for ourselves.

Through this,

Not with this.

Through the heart.

Through the heart,

Not with the mind.

I love this Michael Singer quote,

If you know it,

You know you're in trouble when the mind is telling you how to get to God.

That's like one of my most favourite Michael Singer quotes.

He's such a legend.

Yeah,

You know you're in trouble when the mind is telling you how to get to God.

Of course,

The mind has got you where you are now.

The heart is what's gonna connect you to the divine.

That's a great quote.

I'm putting that one in my pocket.

Please,

It's not mine if you're welcome to it.

There's an abundance of such quotes.

Yeah.

I'm just following.

I love it.

Yeah.

So how do you,

Do you help people define their own abundance for themselves?

How do we declutter the noise?

So if I hear you,

Check in with your heart.

But how do you,

Cause at some point getting into the weeds with it,

It's like,

Okay,

My mind is what brought me to abundance potentially.

And then I'm connecting to my heart.

And then surely there's some things that you're gonna have to surrender because your heart doesn't,

I don't know,

Maybe you wanna hustle and grind the way that your head's convinced that it needs to.

Some people get excited about that.

And this is the thing,

Some people do.

So dropping the judgment about what I'm supposed to do,

What I'm not supposed to do,

What's right and what's wrong,

Allows you to be more in the flow.

Some people get,

I remember I was,

I did a course with one guy and he was like,

He had a guy and I'm not condoning anything.

So just please,

Everyone listening,

Just please just go with the context of this.

And there was a guy that was a heavy drug user that came to his course.

And the guy's like,

I've listened to everything you say,

But I really do love doing drugs.

Like he hadn't had any trauma.

He hadn't had any,

He just really enjoyed the process of being one certain drug.

And the guy who was listening,

He said he couldn't wrap his head around it until he stopped judging the guy for just doing what he's here to do.

Now,

A lot of us are doing things that are painful,

Traumatic and dangerous and damaging to us all because we're coming from a place of pain.

Some people are doing things because they really do just like them up.

Now,

When what we claim is lighting us up is taking away from another,

It's not lighting you up because a natural state doesn't infringe the natural law of growth happening in somebody else.

Right?

So when you're doing something that's yours,

That's you,

That doesn't impact others,

And it makes you feel good,

Yes,

Apply some discernment and dive into it.

But ultimately when we stop taking the judgment off of it and actually just start feeding into,

Is this honoring natural law?

Am I allowing growth and expansion to happen?

And am I feeling good about this without impacting other people?

Maybe I do just like to work long hours.

I work long hours,

But it doesn't feel like work.

I'm excited to be doing content and speak to people and to doing things.

And my wife's like,

What are you doing?

Walk away from the computer.

No,

I love it,

Babe.

I love it.

But it doesn't feel like a hustle,

But someone else looking from the outside when Olga looks at me,

She's like,

You're always working.

No,

I'm not always working.

I'm always doing this thing that lights me with a fun job.

Do you enjoy?

Yeah.

There's a rub in there and I've heard you speak about this before.

So competition versus creation,

Two very different planes.

Can you enlighten us rather?

Yeah.

I first got that idea in The Science of Getting Rich by Wallace D.

Wattles,

Which is a quintessential book in my journey.

And he talks about the creative and the competitive plane,

But here's the thing.

I don't want people to put this in the context of nature.

We're talking about into the context of human interaction because competition exists in nature,

Yes,

But they're not killing each other or cheating or tripping each other up or wanting someone else to lose in nature.

There is competition,

But you want somebody to win because then everybody wins because nature works harmoniously with itself.

So we're not talking about natural competition.

We're talking about human competition and the way that we,

With our egos and our stuff,

Get into it.

But competitive is from lack.

I need to win because otherwise,

Blah,

Blah,

Blah,

Or I need to take out the other person.

Whereas creative is like,

It recognises that there's enough for everyone.

And if I,

On a natural law,

Things are gonna flow to me.

I mean,

Again,

You'll always hear me talking about nature.

Like,

Do you ever see a blade of grass freaking out and having depression because it's not sure where the sunlight's gonna come from?

Oh my God,

Is there gonna be morning dew tomorrow morning?

What if I'm gonna be thirsty?

It doesn't do that.

It doesn't do that.

And even in the times when the morning dew doesn't come and it does wither and die,

It surrenders into going back to the soil and feeding the next grass that's gonna come.

That's creative.

It's expansive.

It flows with nature.

Competitive's like,

Who can I take out?

Who can I kill?

Where can I get the thing?

How can I hustle?

And it's like,

It has to take from others.

Whereas creative understands that we're all inherently abundant and the divine will flow through us and allow us to grow into that which we're seeking to experience.

Two different ways of approaching it.

I love that.

And I do feel that a time is underfoot at the moment where leadership is changing.

I think more people are- We're seeing that for sure.

Yeah,

We're definitely seeing competitive sort of dissolve into this creative space.

And there's so many creators.

Now,

Even just looking at the tools that are available to creators right now,

Such as yourself,

Myself,

Man,

Like even just social media,

Like how much it does.

I know there's a whole like dark side to it,

But like how it's enabled creators has just been like a whole other thing as well,

Man.

But to that point,

Bro,

When we stop judging that dark sides exists,

We can pull our energy back from that and sit more in the light and be okay and at peace with.

If we get multi-dimensional,

Interdimensional,

Down the rabbit hole about this a little bit,

Right?

When we move beyond the existence of polarity that we have separate as humans or whatever,

And start to get closer to the singularity that we can call that divine source,

Quantum experience or whatever.

When we move through the barrier of time back to singularity,

There's no good and bad dark and white,

There just is.

So from the divine perspective,

That even the dark side to social media is just the other side of social media.

It just is.

Our judgments about it create challenges and actually feeds into it and perpetuates the darkness of it causing harm to others.

Yeah,

No,

I do hear what you're saying.

Yeah,

There is interesting challenge there.

I remember when I had,

I remember when I started going down this conspiracy theory rabbit hole.

This was quite a few years ago.

And it was,

It was in,

Like,

It became a thing.

Like,

It literally became,

I thought I was becoming more and more informed.

And at a certain point,

I was sitting there and I was like,

I'm not sure if I'm more informed or if I'm completely losing the plot here.

Like,

To the listeners,

Like,

This is really,

Like,

I really shouldn't say this because it's like damage,

Credibility,

Potentially massively high.

But you always know me to be open and transparent to the point where I'm reading things and they're like,

Michelle Obama's a man.

And I'm like,

Is Michelle Obama a man?

I'm like,

What am I doing,

Man?

Like,

This is not informed my life in any way.

And then,

But like,

Seriously,

That's where I realized that's how these things get their energy,

Right?

That's how these things get their energy because they're like,

You are feeding it with your attention.

And I had to go through this and it sounds really like silly to those tuning in,

But honestly,

It's my truth.

I had to go on a healing journey just to heal from conspiracy theories.

And it literally got to the point where it was like,

And it started in a really wholesome place,

Mind you.

It started with like,

Where does money come from?

And how is it circulated?

Oh God.

Right?

That's a cute cabal,

Dark side of the moon.

So when I started getting them,

So like,

The banks and it was like,

Okay,

And who operates the banks?

And it was like,

Oh,

And it was like,

Ooh.

These banks.

And it was like,

Ooh,

These 13 families.

Oh,

Where did they come from?

Satanic bloodlines.

Interesting.

Reptilians.

That's when it started getting.

.

.

I should have stopped at some point,

But I didn't know where.

So I just went into this place and was like,

What is going on here?

And then it was like,

All of a sudden Michelle Obama's a man.

Touch wood.

Sorry,

Michelle.

Like,

I honestly don't think you're a man.

We love you,

Babe.

We love you,

Babe.

Yeah,

Totally.

And I think Obama's Obama for president every year,

Everywhere.

Yeah,

All the bigs.

Yeah.

Like,

And it got to this point and I realized,

And it was as simple as I love that you take so much from nature.

Because the healing journey that I went on was like,

Okay,

Stop feeding all this bullshit to your mind.

And all of a sudden,

Just like,

What is real for you?

And what was real for me was like,

My connection with the earth.

And I was like,

Am I eating good organic food,

Good clean food?

Like,

Yep.

Okay,

Solid.

My relationship with my water.

I've got my filter,

Like the hydration.

I'm having good showers.

I'm cleaning.

I'm purifying.

I'm cleansing.

I'm good.

Right,

Good.

My relationship with the wind.

Am I doing my breathing?

Am I doing my Wim Hof and I do my meditations.

Am I connecting to my breath in my present and my mindful?

Yes.

Okay,

Solid.

Right.

And then from there,

It was like,

My fire,

My passions.

Am I doing the things that light me up?

Yes,

Absolutely.

And I was like,

All right.

And it literally was like six months of just holding that intention.

Just like,

It's just about this stuff.

Don't get into the rabbit hole of like,

And it was hard because it's like,

All those things,

They're like,

Energetically,

They're quite like consuming,

Right?

Like it was full on.

It's not like,

Anyway,

I've got a real experience with you.

No,

No,

No,

I love the way that you've tied in with those,

The elements as well.

That was beautiful.

Oh,

That's the only way that I came back,

Bro.

Because at the end of it,

Like,

I feel like that is,

Yeah,

That's the core.

Like if I ever get lost,

You know,

It's always about,

You know,

Coming back to and you know,

The chemical elements on the chemistry chart,

There's like 108 of them or whatever.

But yeah,

These four fundamental principles,

I feel like always just align you back to who you are,

Which maybe I can use that as a beautiful little segue,

Alignment,

Bro.

I see what you did there,

Bro.

I see you.

I see you.

Good to see you,

Boy.

Not my first podcast.

How do we,

Alignment,

How big a piece is it in order to,

Yeah,

To call in,

Not what other people are trying to program in for you and to really just connect to what is yours.

So I've been on this rant recently where I say stop meditating and everyone gets mad.

I got a hat made.

I've got like a t-shirt.

What do you mean?

I've started getting a lot more TV slots and like my team,

My hypothesis is playing,

She's amazing.

And like,

She's like,

Yeah,

This host is a heavy meditator.

It just wants to challenge you about saying this.

I'm like,

Yeah,

Bring it on.

I want them to bring because what I really am saying is meditation is part of a holistic process.

It's one aspect.

It works primarily in one aspect of who we are and when we interject that into our experience and then move on to the other pieces,

So much happens.

So my whole thing is that meditation is an imperative meditative mindfulness practice or whatever that is for you.

So for some people,

It's going to go and walk in the nature,

Some people,

It's feet in the ocean.

For some people,

It's playing music,

Whatever it is that gets you into that connection with your divine self,

Do it and then address channeling that power into holding beliefs,

Narratives and mental programs that support you having that abundance,

Having that joy and living that purpose.

And then start to allow that to flow into habits,

Behaviors,

Actions,

And the curation of an environment that supports you experiencing the life that you're worthy of and deserve.

The meditation kicks it off.

But if you stop at the meditation and you don't fix your beliefs,

You don't heal those unconscious programs,

You don't start looking at those limiting narratives.

Nothing's going to change.

You're going to close your eyes and enjoy all the abundance of the universe.

Come back and still be in pain,

Out of sync and not living your best life,

Not allowing the divine to fully flow through you.

Your environment is still going to be whack.

You're not going to be paying your bills.

You're not going to have the love that you deserve and your body's not going to be where it needs to be.

So take that and carry it across the board.

So for me,

Alignment is this,

Is recognizing the different levels or I call them like wavelengths of density that we experience our physical plane,

Our body moving through time and space.

What am I putting in it?

Much to your point,

Like how am I hydrating it?

Am I breathing?

What's my posture?

For me,

Like I see the osteopathic,

I see the chiropractor.

I make sure I get my movement in,

I hydrate water.

I'm not really into the processed junk.

I'm not really into that.

My mind,

What am I feeding it?

What stories am I allowing myself to say?

What conversations am I having?

What are my inputs?

What narratives am I running on with my spirit?

Am I doing my breath work?

Am I doing my meditation?

Am I taking time out to go and do my careers?

Am I spending time communing with all of that that allows me to plug in with the aspect of myself that's closest to the divine principle of self and then clicking all of that into alignment with a specific intention,

Which I call in from here.

So divine,

What are you going to show me that you want to experience through me,

Through my patterns,

Through my desires,

Through my fires and through my purpose?

Thank you.

Is my spirit supporting me embodying that?

Yes,

Thank you.

And my beliefs opening me up to receive that?

Yes,

Thank you.

Are my actions,

Habits,

Behaviors,

Environment supporting me receiving that?

Yes,

Thank you.

And that's the moment.

Thank you so much for sharing that.

So it's not just about the meditation is what I'm hearing.

It's like also about the beliefs.

And then there's a lot of doing in everything that you just described.

There's a lot of doing.

There's some doing.

Here's the thing.

So I did a challenge in May and I asked a question.

I said,

Guys,

How many of you,

We have three,

400 people live on this thing.

Like,

Wait,

How many of you have got a vision board?

Me,

I've got a vision board.

How many of you does it actually consistently work for?

Crickets.

Crickets.

But vision boards are really powerful tool.

My movies are really powerful tool.

They have the power to be an embodiment of what we're seeking to create into our life.

We can literally build the blueprint of what we're going to manifest.

But if I just build the blueprint and don't pick up a hammer,

Don't pick up a nail,

Don't go to Home Depot,

Don't even buy the land to build my house on.

And then I'm sitting looking at the thing,

Where's my house?

But I made the blueprint and everything.

That's what we're doing.

How important is it to take courageous action?

Because oftentimes the blueprints that we draw out for ourselves are quite inspiring.

However,

When we go to take action in alignment to that,

It calls upon a deeper part of ourselves to potentially show up because it can be quite intimidating.

The newness,

The largeness of our vision.

Speaking from experience,

Stepping into things.

I see you broke.

I see you.

Yeah,

It can be kind of huge.

For me,

Now courage has been a piece where feel the fear,

Do it anyway.

It's like a total thing.

It's like actually almost like a Tim Ferriss sort of vibe,

Like fear setting.

It's like,

If this scares me,

Maybe there's something on the other fucking side of that,

Bro,

Like turn over that rock and see what's there.

And is it dark or is it day?

But yeah,

Just how important is courage in this space then for you?

I think people underestimate how much courage is required for the smallest change.

Yeah,

Some of us have big grand visions.

Like we're rocking it.

We're out here.

Me and you,

Like warriors out there on the front lines,

On the vanguard of this changing of this uplifting of confidence consciousness,

Bringing about this inspired evolution,

Bringing about this callback to natural,

A natural state of abundance.

Some people don't realize even something as small as going to school every day and facing down the bullies,

Right?

Going into the office and showing up for an organization that doesn't respect or honor you,

Going home to a family that doesn't respect or honor you.

Right.

And then wanting to move out of that,

That's huge too.

I want to change my health situation.

I want to start eating the right foods.

That's a change too and requires courage.

I think people underestimate how much of their landscape does require courage because the unconscious mind doesn't want to change.

Not because it's your enemy,

Because that's how it's programmed.

Programmed to be a machine that you give it a program and then it plays it out.

That's why I don't remember telling my heart to beat a second ago.

That's in the program.

So it's taken care of it.

I don't remember telling my lungs and for my DNA and telling me as to keep growing so that this cut I've got my finger can heal itself.

I don't remember telling it to do that.

Courage is across the board.

Courage is the thing that calls us forward to stare down the mind saying it doesn't want to change and to lovingly tell it.

But this is what our divine calling is right now.

The divine calling is a step into wholeness of health.

The divine calling is to look at the loneliness that we've been experiencing and see that this is the divine principle that I'm called to experience.

There is love that's waiting for me and I'm going to have the courage to honor and love myself enough to allow love in.

Courage is saying,

Hey,

I know that there's safety and security with this job,

But I'm called to a higher purpose to go out there and serve others and bring my gifts to the world.

That's courage.

So I want to encourage people not to be frightened off by the rock stars that you have on this podcast,

The rock star that you are,

Or be scared of the person that they know that's done the big thing.

But to remember that every single iota of change that the divine is speaking through you to be manifested and experienced requires courage.

Thank you so much.

I love the way you speak about the divine.

Yeah,

For me,

I look at it as great spirit.

And even sometimes when I feel like I say this in my coaching couple of times to quite a few people now,

It's like sometimes I can feel like a kitten hanging off the edge of a cliff and someone's like holding me out there.

I'm like literally like I'm standing tall in my life,

But like I literally feel like a little ragdoll kitten just hanging over the edge of the cliff.

But I always check in with myself and then like I have this opportunity to check back and like whose arm is holding me and it's like,

Oh,

It's it's your spirit,

Bro.

It's your own spirit that's here.

Just let you know,

Like how high up you are and that you totally fucking got this.

And it's like,

It's fucking scary.

And it's like,

Yeah,

But touch wood,

Like,

You know,

And if you can just,

You know,

Check in,

Like you said,

With the divine or with your spirit,

It's like it has its plans for you similar to where we started.

Thank you so much for sharing that part of your story as well.

It's like,

You know,

Trying to build an exit,

But yet spirit has its plan for you.

You know,

It's like,

Yeah,

I'll distract you with this exit thing.

And then,

You know,

Like,

Meanwhile,

Reprogramming your whole life from the ground up.

Yeah,

Bro,

Just before I let you go,

I want to tune in because one of the biggest things that has ever changed my whole relationship with my abundance,

Touch wood,

My manifestation,

My ability to create touch wood has been this really simply gratitude.

Yeah.

And I know for those shooting in,

It's like,

Here we go again,

Gratitude.

Like it's like gratitude.

It's super simple.

But honestly,

Like the power of now,

Like now is simple,

But yet you can like nerd out on it and you'll probably be nerding out on it for the rest of your life.

I'm the same with gratitude.

What I have found is just being grateful for things before they've physically appeared touch wood,

Which is they're appearing.

It's the opposite of what we're talking about with that wanting and lack.

Can you tell us a little bit about how this is like,

Is this something in your space?

Am I just a kook head?

Is this really a thing?

I just got gooseies all over because step three of Beyond Intention is gratitude.

And one of the biggest,

The biggest like,

Aha's in my journey when I was tracking where my journey had gone,

It was this idea of expectation.

Okay.

This is going to make sense in a second.

So the model that I built before that had made me wealth that had gone,

Right?

I called vision,

Purpose,

Faith,

Gratitude,

Have a clear vision,

Act with purpose,

Have faith,

Unwavering faith,

And then have an attitude and gratitude.

So it's great for everything that comes.

And I had faith,

But gratitude is almost like it goes beyond faith because it's a directed certainty that something's going to show up.

But when we start to look at quantum science,

And I'm not quantum physicist guys,

And I'm not one of those people that's going,

I'm going to talk about quantum physics,

But there are some aspects of it that are irrefutable that we can have like a novel conversation on.

And that's the observer effect.

Okay.

So when we look at the nature of reality,

Physical manifested reality,

We've got energy moving in and out of form in flashes that we call quanta in quantum physics,

Moves in and out of form.

So when we look at our life,

We think that we're in a movie,

But actually it's actually like a movie,

These little snapshots of film frame that are so neatly woven together that it's got the illusion of a moving image,

But it's the snapshot frames per second.

Yeah.

But that forthcoming snapshot is waiting for direction as to what that snapshot is going to be.

That's the observer effect.

Physical reality can only take shape because it's been given an instruction to collapse into the waveforms,

Been given an instruction to collapse into form as to what we interpret as matter.

This is part and parcel of what the mind does.

It fires off the instruction and says what that collapsed waveform should be.

That's why the unconscious has got such a leading role in what we create,

Bringing this back to gratitude.

When I'm in positive expectation about something,

I'm actually force feeding the program the instruction to collapse that from non-form into form and bring it into my life.

I'm saying I'm so certain that it's going to happen that I'm going to celebrate it now before I've even seen it to which reality responds with so long as we've got the belief system that can hold it,

Which is why the belief comes in.

Right?

Here you go.

And then it shows up and then we can celebrate it after the fact,

Which is what we do with listening.

We'll tune into our experiences.

So positive expectation is one of the leading factors because ultimately reality is unfolding according to our expectation when the expectation is positive and celebrated in advance.

We call that gratitude and that's actually a command to reality for it to come into our life.

Beautiful.

Guys,

Thank you so much for tuning into another gorgeous episode of the Inspired Evolution here with Dan.

Dan,

Brother,

Thank you so much for your presence here today.

I know it's a lot of times of work that informs this conversation.

So not just thank you for today,

But thank you for everything else.

And also,

As we know,

Calling in the best version of the future.

So thank you for what's ahead as well.

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