I think a fun place to start is to ponder the question of when do we first experience intimacy as a newborn baby,
Right?
Birth is a super intimate process in all ways and so some might say that a baby's first experience of intimacy is the eye gaze,
Right?
With whoever they see first.
Is that a doctor,
A nurse?
Eyes are the gateway to the soul,
Right?
With her that,
That is absolutely valid and then another side or somebody else might say,
Well the first experience of intimacy is them being held.
Babies are completely vulnerable when we come into this world so that act of being held in,
You know,
Love,
Care,
Support and those things could all happen simultaneously,
Right?
They are either assisted out or they are caught so they're being held and opening their eyes for the first time.
So that's multifaceted right there and then another part of the birthing process is that intimacy of,
Of like pure love.
That's what I think of.
The baby's being admired and complimented and,
You know,
Just for existing,
Oh my gosh,
You made it here,
Like welcome,
You're so beautiful.
So I think that's a fun place to start.
I agree.
I think that's really profound.
May,
Do you have something to comment to what Katie-Jane said?
Well,
As a start,
It is beautiful to start reflecting on what is our first experience even if we don't remember.
I guess I was going to add on from an adult perspective how it just,
I realized what intimacy was and how it has changed my life in my experience,
In the experience of myself and in all my relationships.
Not just with human beings but with everything that surrounds me.
And for me,
It's a very deep connection.
Yeah,
I think that's the shortest way that I can describe intimacy.
Very deep connection with oneself first,
Which could be also defined as pure alignment with the soul as a human,
For example,
Or higher consciousness within you.
And from that place of intimacy where you are fully connected to yourself or your higher self,
Then you start relating and engaging with everything that surrounds you and you can have a wonderful experience of everything else in a more objective way and in a more loving way.
And by that I mean that when you're deeply connected to yourself,
You are no longer expecting anything from anyone and you're not trying to earn or gain anything.
You're just fully experiencing yourself and expressing yourself and then you allow everything else to express itself and you observe it and you enjoy it and you may merge with it if there is an opportunity to do so.
And you experience the extreme joy that comes from experiencing yourself in your truest form or most authentic form and another being's most authentic expression.
I resonate.
I resonate with both of what you're saying.
I do feel like intimacy begins even before we're here,
Right?
We have spiritual intimacy as well and actually it's really only hitting me now that I'm thinking about spiritual intimacy before we are incarnated into our human experience and what that means to also experience that level of connection to consciousness as well with that eye gaze that Katie Jane was expressing and absolutely may with it starts inside and that has been very much my journey to me.
Intimacy is all about deep understanding and connection with every fiber of our being on every possible level and with our experience with everything else,
Right?
We can have the physical intimacy even in the moments that aren't of pleasure,
Right?
So I've had a really big health journey and in this health journey I've experienced a tremendous amount of physical pain on other levels as well but in terms of the physical body I've had a lot of physical pain like 10 out of 10 24 7 for years until I started to break that and I will say that was one of the greatest ways for me to awaken.
Did it feel awful?
Absolutely.
And my body wanted intimacy,
Was demanding that I pay attention to acknowledge that not only something was going wrong physically with me but that this was a manifestation of my lack of intimacy within my mental,
Emotional,
Spiritual bodies that I was in general just not connected and it brought me from a state of attempting to numb myself whether in total pleasure or to veer away from pain into a clear awareness of myself and connection to my physical body and through my gender transition I have found other layers of deeper intimacy within my physical vessel.
It's enabled me through the pain to find the joy and the pleasure and to lean into being the divine co-creator that I am and be able to actually shift my consciousness while shifting my body and in a way it's brought me to the most authentic space that I feel I could be at this time and to bring me into a space where I feel like I have true autonomy even in those moments where I'm in pain.
Does this resonate with either of you?
Yeah,
Definitely.
I can say like actually a lot of your medical journey and pain journey resonates really deeply because I've had similar experiences.
I had a stretch of being diagnosed with an immunodeficiency disorder very uncomfortable to experience in my body definitely you know wanting to escape and then kind of in the middle of that I was in a really bad car accident where I was rear-ended and got whiplash ended up with post-traumatic fibromyalgia after that absolutely you know over your body and it was definitely took the accident and sitting down after that happened to as a pivot point right for me to reassess exactly what you were talking about like who am I what am I wanting and doing in life how can I make changes and and acknowledge myself on a deeper level and that was the catalyst for a really deep you know spiritual healing journey for sure so I get it.
