Sarah Blondin on Self Love, Part 2

Meditation teacher Sarah Blondin, founder of Live Awake, joins Cody Edner and David Gandelman in a conversation to deepen us into self-love, acceptance, and transformation. With an anchoring sense of calmness and authenticity, Sarah guides a powerful meditation at the end of the episode leaving us feeling how she feels.

Transcript

Hey everybody,

Welcome to the Energy Matters podcast.

I am here with my co-host,

Kody Edner.

And today we have the amazing Sarah Blondin on.

Welcome Sarah.

Hi,

Thank you for having me.

We aren't taught self love,

Which I find super sad.

It took me till I was 32 or 33 to actually say those words to myself for the first time.

Wow.

Well,

It wasn't even a thing.

It wasn't even a thought in my mind.

I should be saying I love you to myself.

And even I love you to my mind.

And even I love you to my body.

Those weren't concepts that were taught or ever valued.

It was like,

You go out and you find that love.

And you get people to tell you they love you.

That's what you do with your life,

Right?

It's not like,

Oh,

Okay,

Well,

I can ignite and awaken this within myself.

Nobody really taught me or told me about that.

And I remember doing some sort of meditation where it was just like,

I love you,

I love you,

I love you and repeat.

And you said it so many times that I was like,

Oh,

Shush,

Stop.

And then all of a sudden I was like bawling my eyes out.

Wow.

Oh,

Wow.

Yeah.

So it was kind of like,

Oh,

Wow.

And then I felt it within myself.

And then it woke up with this whole kind of reality that I had kind of been spending my whole life until that point trying to get other people to feel that for me,

Not realizing I had power to awaken and find it within myself.

Yeah.

I really think that's part of the missing pieces.

We're taught to kind of value and put all of our focus in relating to the world and all of our relationships in the world.

But we're never really taught to look at and foster the relationship with ourselves.

I think that's where meditation is so big and explosive right now is that's what everybody's missing and looking for is what is it to be truly be with myself and to be connected.

And ultimately the end of that would be to truly love yourself.

Right.

And then it feels like a daunting thing for people,

I think,

When they start trying to delve into their interior worlds,

Because you are kind of faced with that uncomfortable potential.

I remember when I first started meditating,

I was so uncomfortable.

I couldn't sit down.

I didn't want to be with myself.

You know,

Like I just I look back to the beginning days of my meditation.

It was like,

Oh man,

Like it was a really hard process.

Now I have developed kind of my store of self-love and pleasure.

And you know,

Now I'm so curious when I meditate,

I'm like,

Okay,

Like,

Yay.

Right.

It's a long journey.

But to get there,

It's taken years,

Right?

So I think I think people need to hear that that's going to be part of the process for themselves.

It's a supernatural part of the process.

And just to keep persevering and be courageous in the face of your discomforts and just keep I always joke,

If you want to clean house,

Just take up meditation.

You only have to clean it every time you try to sit down.

I will do anything to avoid myself.

I'll even spend time with my spouse.

Exactly.

It's like so wild.

And yeah,

Nobody taught me about that really.

I think this is the beginning phase,

It's going to be really uncomfortable.

And then,

Yeah.

And it takes five,

It could take five to 10 years or more,

You know,

I know for me,

I sat for seven years straight in Hawaii.

Yeah,

I spent a year in India sitting.

So not,

You know,

Not that everyone needs to do that by any means,

But it's it takes time to grow.

I think we grow,

We become adults,

Maybe at 25 or 30 psychologically.

But then we don't really know what it means to be an adult.

Nobody teaches us like how to live.

We're just meant to like make money and a family and somehow like bubble around and get along.

But nobody ever is like,

Hey,

This is how you deal with emotion and a spiritual crisis.

Why shut up?

You know?

But even that idea of how long it takes is paradoxical because the minute you begin,

The minute you take that first step,

You begin to create change and you begin to grow.

And that first step is no different than that thousand step other than you've been taking steps all along.

So you just have to start right where you are.

There's no better you that's going to become a meditator.

There's no future time.

It's just today,

I'm going to sit with myself for a few minutes and you know,

Begin there.

And yes,

Five years down the road,

You still have a epiphanies and you grow and you even become that much wiser.

And 10 years down the road and 20 years,

You know,

I've been meditating for well,

I'm getting old now.

So a long time,

30 plus years and I still learn things.

Right.

Do you both meditate every day?

Sorry to interrupt.

I just want to know a daily practice.

Yeah.

I don't know about you,

Cody.

Mine is intuitive.

So I'll,

It'll be at different times a day at different lengths.

I don't have like,

I don't have an alarm.

I think after a certain while it becomes an art,

You know,

So if like you're a painter or writer,

Some people are very structured.

So they do sit and do it at the same time every day,

But it's just not my personality.

So I just kind of go with it.

Yeah.

So sometimes like for me,

I'll sit for,

I'm a longer sitter.

So like if I sit,

Sometimes I'll sit for an hour or two.

Oh,

Wow.

Two hours?

I've,

Yeah,

Definitely sat for even more than that.

Whoa,

Man.

I get a,

I get a medal.

I can do that.

Well,

I call it meditating.

Cody might call it something else,

But disappeared.

How long do you sit for,

Cody,

Typically?

Typically an hour,

Roughly.

A lot of times I don't put it on the clock,

But I don't sit like where I'm frozen.

You know,

It's not,

It's not sitting and trying to overcome the body or control the body.

So it's more of a relaxed sitting.

So I may,

A lot of times about a half an hour in,

I kind of tend to stretch a little,

But I'm getting a little older.

That's the interesting thing about meditation too,

Is like going to teach it is like,

Well,

It's also relative almost,

Right?

And there is instructions of your own self that you need to respect,

Right?

So,

Right.

And that's,

You know,

A part of developing your own meditative practice,

I think is listening to your body.

I mean,

At least from my perspective,

I'm sure there are some practices out there that are all about overcoming the body,

But the practice that we teach is all about getting in better communication with your body.

Oh yeah.

And that's fine.

So honoring your body,

Self care,

You know,

Self love,

Those are at the core of the idea.

So it's not like you're trying to force your body to do this thing so you can get to this other thing.

It's how do I get in harmony and alignment within myself,

Get into flow more and,

And then,

You know,

Approach the world from that perspective.

Yeah,

Exactly.

I remember talking to a meditator once who was just beginning to practice and they were kind of going full bore at it.

It was like Taipei perfectionist.

And at the end he was like,

I better be getting something out of this.

But it's totally like,

I totally understand where he was coming from.

Because I think I started out that way as well.

What's the return on my investment?

I was with some really wealthy people going to some gala in New York City once and one of them,

He was a businessman and he said,

David,

Explain the benefits of meditation to me in 15 seconds.

And I was like,

It puts you into a state of mind where you don't need to figure things out in 15 seconds.

I wish I said that I think I just kind of froze at first and was like,

Uh,

What's going on right now?

Cody,

Where are you?

I don't have answers.

Sarah,

Are there teachers and or books that really inspired you that got you on the path or that you continue to use to help inspire you?

One of the first books I ever read was by Deepak Chopra and it was when he wrote in the eighties,

I don't remember the name,

But that really kind of changed my life.

I wish I could name it now.

75 books ago.

Yeah,

Exactly.

That guy is so cool.

I think it's wild.

Women Who Run At The Wolves.

I can't rave enough about it.

I think men should even read it.

Oh,

I haven't heard of that.

Okay.

Who was that by?

I've heard of that.

It's by an author called Clarice Pincolas Estes.

And she's just like magic.

She like writes how I would with,

She's inspired a lot of my writing.

Who else?

And you were saying Eckhart Tolle.

Eckhart Tolle,

Of course.

Michael Singer.

I've read pretty much,

You know,

Every teacher.

So you're a reader.

I am a reader.

Those have been my teachers.

I haven't had a guru or other than myself,

But it's always been in books.

And I've always kind of been waiting for that teacher.

Like,

Well,

Aren't I supposed to have that person that,

You know,

Sit with or really ask questions?

And I love that my journey has forced me to ask myself questions instead of,

And I do not devalue a teacher at all.

It's just that I haven't had one.

So I'm like,

Okay,

Well,

The upside of this is that I've had to dive within myself a little bit deeper,

I guess.

Yeah.

I started with Eckhart Tolle,

You know,

When I was a teenager and it was incredibly valuable.

And I started having awakenings from just reading his books.

So I think that's a totally valid way to do it.

I don't think you need a teacher.

So you're an avid reader,

Huh?

That's cool.

That's cool.

That's funny.

I started with Way of the Peaceful Warrior.

Because I'm that old.

We have the Peaceful Warrior.

I don't even think you're that.

Oh,

You would love it.

Dan Millman.

Okay.

Ordering.

Ordering.

He actually just had a great interview on,

If you go on YouTube and type in Dan Millman,

Lewis Howes,

Really good video cast interview with him.

He's been teaching spirituality probably for 50 years,

40 years.

Maybe I'm dating him too much.

I don't know how many years it's been.

He's going to listen like 50 years.

Maybe it's been 35.

But yeah,

His books are really great.

He's a wonderful teacher.

But I've kind of hit a wall here with teachings.

I don't know if you guys have as well.

I feel like I either need to stop reading entirely,

Or I don't know.

The content feels like the same.

And I know universal wisdom is universal wisdom.

So it's just people saying things just a little bit differently.

But I'm at a bit of a standstill as far as books.

Yeah.

Yeah,

Me too.

I don't read much at all unless I have a specific course I'm teaching.

I want to just go,

What is somebody else's perspective just to kind of jar mine a bit more?

And I also like to look for stories,

Like historical stories,

Mythological stories that I can weave into my teachings.

But in terms of reading books for spiritual kind of juice,

I've noticed I put that down a while back.

I'm kind of like,

Okay,

First paragraph,

I'm like,

Oh.

Heard it before.

Yeah,

And that's okay.

I mean,

We're all just saying the same thing anyways,

Just in different voices.

But yeah,

That's right.

That's right.

In different ways.

How about you,

Cody?

Do you still read?

Not really.

I haven't read spiritual books in years.

I read a lot of books,

But not not typically.

I'm stuck because I can't read a fiction or something because I feel like it's a waste of time.

I'm always been that way.

I've been that way.

I've always been a nonfiction.

Like I cannot pick up a fiction book.

It's like I'm wasting my time.

I don't know why.

Well,

What I found is like Cody and I,

So one of the things that we do is we teach people to read intuitively.

So closing your eyes and with your mind's eye,

Learning to see energy.

So we feel also.

Oh my gosh.

When I was thinking about trying to teach,

I was like,

How do I teach that?

That's actually what you're saying.

I want to take your course.

So that's what we do all day.

So then to read a book,

On spirituality,

It's not really how I learn and grow spiritually.

It's by looking and seeing what's happening energetically with a person or a group.

So you've developed a system in which you can teach people that.

And so the best thing to read are other people because they're books.

Each person has amazing chapters.

So I remember for me personally,

There would be a relationship phase of my life where I was learning about relationships and I would work one on one with people and we're all going through relationship stuff,

Like 50,

100 people in a row almost.

I'd be like,

Wow.

And I got to learn this is what breakup looks like.

This is what heartache looks like.

This is what love looks like.

This is what stuckness looks like.

This is what abuse looks like.

And from that kind of reading energy,

I started to gain so much that I put all the books down because I was like,

I could read anything with my eyes closed.

It's so much cooler.

Wow.

Really cool.

And I remember being four or five years old,

Picking up like a New York Times or some newspaper and looking going and thinking,

I will never be able to read this.

There's thousands of letters.

It's impossible.

I know.

It's impossible.

That is not what I imagined me going to journalism school.

It was just like,

But there was a reason for it.

Yeah.

But now you don't say like,

Reading is so hard.

Hold,

Give me a minute.

Right.

It's not like the 1700s.

So in the same way,

I think we can learn how to read energy where it becomes second nature or a sixth sense or whatever you want to call it.

And you start to just work and tap into that space.

It takes time.

It takes practice just like meditation.

But I think it becomes,

Well,

It is really a different way to look at the world,

To see the world in context of the energy behind things and the energy that causes things to be a certain way for a person.

It's just a very different perspective.

Yeah.

I remember being really little.

I swear,

I don't know if it was a vivid imagination,

But I really believe it was real that I could look at people and see inside their houses and not see exactly what their houses looked like,

But I could sense the energy in their home and in the person when I was really little.

And I would be like,

Ooh,

And I'd meet certain people and I'd get all freaked out because I'd be like,

There's something really dark or shadow or whatever.

And I have all these kinds of things that I eventually numbed myself from because it wasn't encouraged to grow.

It was actually discouraged.

Yeah.

Yeah,

Exactly.

It's like all these kids have vivid imaginations.

And maybe it is that I don't really know,

But I sure as hell felt like I was sensing inside people.

Well,

The problem with the word imagination is that we've all been taught that that means made up.

It is your ability to image something in your mind's eye,

Right?

To see something.

So what are you seeing?

Well,

Whatever you're looking at becomes what you start to see.

So if you start to look at people's energy,

You will see the image of that.

And there's no different than an imagination where you're making something up because it's all happening in your mind's eye.

I know,

But I guess I struggle with,

I never get,

You never get confirmed.

So I'm like,

Well,

Am I right about their energy?

I don't know.

I kind of go,

Well,

Maybe I'm just kind of running off something and maybe,

You know,

How do you know you're actually tapping into the authentic?

You never get confirmed in your answer.

Well,

You do when you start to open up to seeing people's energy and then realizing that what you will see a reflection of that in your interaction with them.

So you might see someone's energy and you go,

Wow,

They're kind of upset.

And then you say hi and you get a response back that reflects that.

Get out of my way.

Right,

Right,

Right.

Okay.

Okay.

I get it.

So you can test it in that way.

Or in the beginning,

You may see energy and you start to just become honest.

So you may see someone's upset and you say,

Why are you angry?

And they go,

I'm not angry.

You go,

Oh,

I know.

It happened to me in a lady the other day.

She started yelling at me and I just said,

Why are you so angry?

And she was like,

Stalled.

She didn't even know what to say.

She was like,

Well,

Because.

And I was like,

Oh,

I'm so sorry.

Why was she yelling at you?

It was a four way.

I thought it was a four way stop sign and it was only a two way.

So I slowed down and she was so mad.

She rolled down the window as I was driving by her because I had stopped and she had to wink or something.

She was yelling through her car window and I just stopped my car beside her just to say like,

Oh no,

Like,

Why are you so angry?

And she was just,

She needed to be,

You know,

She needed to hello from you.

I know,

But yeah,

She didn't want my love at the moment.

Maybe,

Maybe it percolated.

Next time at that stop sign.

Yeah.

Well,

Maybe it forced her to look at her anger,

Which is kind of nice.

Yeah.

Oh my God.

Wow.

Sarah,

Can you tell us a little bit about the book you're writing?

You mentioned that it's kind of live awake,

But.

Well,

It's the connection with the heart.

Like I was saying before,

And I've kind of only written the first,

Well,

I've written pretty much the whole book.

I'm stuck at chapter five a little bit.

Just because I'm trying to go into the deeper uncomfortable stuff that people have to face and trying to show them the other side of that.

And I don't really know how to teach someone to face the discomfort.

I know that can kind of be a risky thing.

Also learning how to teach people how to meditate.

I think something that's often overlooked or not touched upon is that discomfort or those kind of scary things that can be ignited,

Right?

Like your internal worlds have both uncomfortable and comfortable things.

And I think people think when they start meditating that they're just kind of going to touch into this blissful,

Peaceful energy.

And it's like,

Oh,

But before that,

Nobody says what happens if I touch on a really dark energy or what if I'm really scared or what if it ignites some sort of feeling that I can't shake or I don't know how to approach.

I don't think anybody really talks about that.

When you guys teach meditation,

Do you give people tools to kind of transcend that or how do you approach that?

There's a disclaimer that says see a therapist.

So you just tell people to see a therapist.

Just leave them flapping in the wind.

We do address that because if you start to move towards reconnection with yourself,

The thing you're going to end up becoming aware of is that which disconnected you in the first place.

So maybe the fear,

The pain or whatever it is.

So we teach tools to deal with that journey,

Basically,

To kind of walk that path.

I should get you guys to meet my rough draft or something.

We'd totally be happy to.

What I would also say to that is I do recommend for a lot of people,

If you're going to go into something deep and there's,

For example,

A level of abuse,

Which is quite common,

You want to work with somebody one on one.

That's not something that you're going to oftentimes,

Sometimes you can,

But often get through on your own because it's so deep and painful that it's good to have somebody kind of hold space and or walk you through some very deliberative steps to deal with it.

Otherwise,

You could hurt yourself or get really lost.

But all of us are as lucky as Eckhart Tolle where we sit on a park bench and go,

Why am I thinking?

Oh,

Now I'm awake.

And then it's over.

You know,

My,

I think that his soul is an old one and it just was like,

It was like a pop tart in a toaster.

Yeah.

I think that's kind of probably what happened.

And you know,

He was on the verge of suicide.

And so instead of committing suicide,

It woke up.

I don't think it was as easy as the story.

I think he went,

That was a pretty rough journey.

I'm sure at the time it was a real deal.

But he did not have a spiritual practice.

He didn't meditate.

So in terms of his awakening,

It all just happened.

And then I think he explains that he had to go back and kind of learn things and read books and go,

Okay,

Let me give this structure so I can teach other people what just happened to me.

So he had to find a language.

That I heard about.

She's quite famous.

She's older.

Forget her name.

Was it Byron Katie?

Yeah,

Byron Katie.

And she was just like,

Boom,

Woke up and was like different.

And then she had no language or,

You know,

She was like,

I,

She didn't have any of the background that we do.

Yeah.

So she had to become a teacher.

Yeah.

Isn't that wild?

That's cool.

She's got great work.

She's,

She's a great teacher.

Yeah,

I haven't explored her,

But okay.

So that is essentially the premise of the book.

It's kind of taking them through the process of getting back to the heart.

But just,

But it's also going to have the meditations at the end.

So it's going to be a kind of a multimedia book,

Which is maybe new for its time.

But I want to have the meditations that end to kind of ground and be that counselor for the people as they're going through things.

So I'll kind of have my loving,

You know,

Hopefully I can help people transcend and shift their perspective when in a dark place.

Cause I think that's what my meditations kind of really help people do is they're like,

I just feel,

You know,

I'm in a really dark place and you're the only thing your voice or the way you're doing it has made me be able to face and be in those places.

And you're kind of helping pull me out.

So the book will just be,

You know,

A book.

And then at the end of each chapter,

There's going to be a meditation in relation to what I'm trying to teach them.

So is it kind of a walk through your journey of awakening?

Yeah,

I would say so.

Yeah,

I would say so.

Cause that's,

Yeah,

Essentially what happened to me is I closed myself off from my heart and my sensitivities,

Like seeing into people's energies.

Like I so naturally did was,

You know,

Translated as a really sick and scared little girl because she wasn't taught tools to kind of,

This was power speaking,

But people were saying,

Well,

Vulnerability is a weakness and sensitivities,

You know,

You're frail and you're weak.

Right.

It was like,

Come on,

Sarah,

Just like,

Stop sensing disharmony in the world.

You know,

But that's not real.

Yeah,

Exactly.

It was like,

No,

Just ignore that.

Ignore that.

Ignore that.

And I did.

Right.

So I just got harder and harder and harder.

And,

You know,

Doctors were like,

Oh,

Wow,

You've got irritable bowel and lactose intolerance.

Right.

And it was like,

No.

And I think that's what we're all.

I don't think I am unique.

I think we are all born extremely connected to source.

And what happens is depending on kind of the nurturing we have,

Which I don't think any of us have much,

Even with the best of intention,

Parents,

We kind of just then numb and close to this self and this heart.

And that's what your feeling intelligence is.

And I think before we're able to speak,

We're able to sense disharmony in the world.

And this is this intricate system of sensitivity that's built into us that if used properly and tapped into can actually help us focus in on and sense disharmony and then work to heal it.

Right.

So it's like,

Nobody tells me that,

You know,

I'm sensing.

They weren't like,

Oh,

So something's off here.

Like it was my wisdom speaking instead.

They were like,

Oh,

You're sick.

And you know,

Physical.

Yeah.

It was just a thing.

I was writing mind and heart and body,

And then my mind,

Every time I got sensitive,

Would kind of ignore my emotional needs.

Right.

It was like,

Okay,

You can't go there because,

You know,

We're not supposed to do that.

So then you're just kind of like,

Again,

This is where the avoidance to the uncomfortable places is born.

Right.

It's like,

Meanwhile,

If you look at it,

Like when a kid is born,

Right,

The only language they have is crying.

And crying is a signal that they are in disharmony and that they need help coming back into the peace and love.

And that is our,

That's a feeling intelligence.

That is the first thing we are born with.

And yet it's totally disregarded and then abused into submission.

It's like,

Like disharmony,

Disharmony,

I need help,

I need help.

And hopefully the caregiver helps them and brings them back into alignment.

And then we grow up without words.

And then we're still sensing that disharmony,

But then we're just thrown in our rooms to control our tantrums.

Right.

Yeah.

Meanwhile,

We're just sensing,

We're asking for regaining of harmony and love.

So it's all gotten bit discombobulated.

Right.

We get separated from ourselves because that part,

Especially that sensitivity aspect is never,

It's not really validated by the world as having any value.

It's really,

We're taught that that is like you say,

A weakness or that's our affliction rather than truly our power.

Exactly.

To shift our way in the world and to awaken in the world.

Yeah,

That happens through our own sensitivity.

Exactly.

It's built into each of us for the exact same reason.

And it's actually to help us come back into a loving environment.

But if we're in relationship with a shitty part of that,

Kind of going on as we are now,

Just avoiding everything that our body is asking us to look at.

So that's where things are kind of screwed up.

So that my book is kind of like,

Okay,

Let's reframe this for ourselves because that's the only way.

When I was operating under,

I was born sensitive and then I numbed myself and then I started believing people that I was sick and that I was weak.

It was actually my wisdom.

And then the only thing that dominated my life was fear and control.

So then I just became a fearful,

Controlling person.

But then as I looked at myself,

The older and the more I stretched into the world,

I feel like,

Oh no,

Like I had to look at that,

Right?

I had to say,

What is this fear about and what is this distrust about?

And I always sensed a grace in the background.

I always sensed that grace.

After you have a really good cry or a massage and you actually let go of everything,

What are you letting go into?

And that's the natural rhythm of the universe.

I don't believe it's anything other than that.

So that is in our bodies.

That is in our tissues.

And if we work at it and we work on it,

We actually do release into that.

So that grace is kind of present.

And if we know about the backdrop of grace,

Then we can understand that life is in our favor.

And then even though these things are operating within us,

And even though we were told our sensitivities are a weakness,

We can shift.

And I am a testament to that.

I'm not saying I do not have,

I don't want to say that I don't struggle still,

But I like the struggle almost now because I know that I'm going to the next bigger,

More expansive understanding.

Beautiful.

You know,

That is one of the paradoxes as we talk about this kind of stuff.

As you described that,

Very easily there's this picture that comes to mind that you've overcome it all and somehow you're perfect.

But that is not the goal of the journey.

It's to embrace the struggle and be in flow with it.

I think be connected with yourself through the struggle.

It's not to get rid of all the struggle.

I mean,

There is struggle in life.

There is struggle in growth.

There is discomfort before that big step or that big breakthrough.

And that never goes away.

But learning to enjoy that discomfort,

Learning to move toward it is what allows the journey to expand and continue and be a joy.

And that's what I always think about is that if you actually think about the physicality of birth,

That is,

You know,

Those are the thresholds,

Right?

And I don't think as into the world,

They're any different.

I think they're just as intense.

And I think they signal just the same amount of thing,

That same kind of thing.

We're on the edge.

We're being pushed through a tiny hole.

And if we surrender,

Yeah,

We will be kind of the if the mother and the child both surrender,

Then we will be lifted above to this kind of palpable love that we didn't have before.

Like,

If I think about motherhood and being,

You know,

Becoming a mother,

Birth was insane.

But then at the end of birth,

Once I finally learned to kind of surrender to my body and how my life was doing it for me,

I really didn't have to choose it,

That I was lifted above,

You know,

To dry ground where I was then birthed into and broken into a love that I had no idea about beforehand.

It was kind of like all of these,

You know,

Growth points for us are birthing us into greater and greater capacities of love.

So it's really cool if you can look at it that way.

Beautiful.

Sarah,

Before we finish,

Would you be willing to just guide us for into like a two or three minute space of connecting with the heart?

Maybe.

I like that.

Will you teach us and the audience?

So close your eyes for a minute now.

And what I like to do is I like to kind of breathe a stronger breath down into my chest so that I can hear the hush.

And I let that hush kind of pull my sits bones down into wherever I'm sitting.

So we'll take a big inhale together and just feel the hush.

And just really feeling yourself connected to the earth,

Start to kind of wake in body inside yourself a little bit.

When you do this by just bringing your focus into your heart center and letting whatever energy is in you kind of wake up from its sleepy state.

Let it stretch in your attention.

If you can see,

If you can notice a sort of pulse in your heart center,

If you can kind of tap into the beat or a rhythm or a sensation there behind your ribs.

There is a heart there.

And if it is tender,

Good,

Let it be tender.

Let that tenderness and that vulnerability come awake.

Do not resist it.

This is your wisest intelligence.

Let whatever is there just come into your focus and let it flood you completely.

This heart was given to you as a gift.

You did not have to choose it.

It was born to you.

Just as you have chosen to step toward it and to let it come awake.

Just as you have chosen to let it and yourself become tender in the presence of this.

This is your choice.

It is yours to choose at every painful time in your life.

Every threshold of growth.

It is there for you to choose to climb down into when feeling afraid.

It is yours to choose to come into intimate relationship with.

Just let your love come awake,

Dear ones,

In the presence of your own self.

This is your power,

Your authority,

Your source of wisdom within you.

And if you ever forget to choose,

Just remember it is one breath,

One step toward this heart.

It is never farther or more complicated than that.

It's been a moment now just being tender.

Breathing that tenderness out throughout your arms and your legs,

Through your mind.

Letting everything to unlock and unclench.

Take this wisdom into your day now,

Opening your eyes.

Knowing of this source,

Knowing of your choice,

Knowing of your power and of your fearless heart.

Okay.

Wow.

Thank you.

That was great.

Can we do another 20 minutes of that?

I was gonzo there.

I was like,

I can't keep talking.

Thank you.

That was really beautiful.

Your heart's so beautiful.

It is.

It absolutely is.

I could feel and even see it energetically and just watch it softening.

It was really,

Really great.

Thank you.

You're welcome.

Thank you for hosting.

I'm so happy to be out of my comfort zone.

One day we'll get you out of the forest to teach.

I only talk to trees.

I had this thought while you were teaching and guiding us for some reason that I think Sarah in her past life was a tree.

You make a really great tree.

I don't know why.

If I asked my husband,

He would be like,

No way.

My wife is so grounded.

Oh man.

That's awesome.

Well,

We're all actually human beings.

I know.

We have lives.

Sarah,

That was really amazing.

Thank you so much for coming on Energy Matters and sharing your light with us.

Thank you,

D.

Thank you,

Cody.

Yeah.

Thank you.

And if anybody wants to find you or if everybody wants to find you,

Which I'm sure they will,

I think your website is liveawakeproject.

Com.

Is that right?

Yeah,

That's it.

And then you can find my SoundCloud and my iTunes on my site.

Great.

And you could also find Sarah on Insight Timer.

And do you have like a newsletter that people could sign up for?

No,

That's on the list.

I have one of those lists.

Oh,

Do you?

I do.

It's on the list.

That's awesome.

Well,

Sarah,

You're doing such great work and we so,

So appreciate your time.

I mean,

You are literally changing the world by letting your light shine.

And I hope you do go out there and teach in person one day or however it is you decide to do it.

Okay.

Well,

You guys let me know if you're doing a course at any time and I'll try and fly to you.

I'm going to put these.

You're doing awesome work too.

Thank you so much.

Yeah,

Thank you.

And thanks everyone for listening to Energy Matters,

Insight Timer listeners.

Thank you and we'll see you next time.

Thank you everybody.

Take care.

Reviews

I loved everything about this talk. Sarah was soo openly sharing her experiences and thoughts. She has a great laugh. 🤭 ... more please 🙏🏼

That was beautiful your voices compliment each other. Soothing healing and the calming effect you all have mind blowing 🤯energy. 🔥🔥💖💖💓🧘‍♀️🧘‍♀️🧘‍♀️🥹

It’s helpful to hear the humanity and the heart behind the voice. There are edges to capacity. I was specifically exploring how to find creative energy through a sense of being in the flow of life. What stood out was a connection to the story of the feminine and the wild heart, Women Who Run with the Wolves by Clarissa Pinkola Estés, Ph.D. As a writer, it is necessary to nurture the energy to focus on the heart, to love oneself, to take time to commune with trees.

I love how you framed childhood knowings when she shared. I was ready and needed to hear that today.

That meditation at the end brought tears to my eyes 😭❤️🙏🏻 Just beautiful xx

Wonderful conversation & much to tuck softly within the heart to assist in growth. Thank you, kindly for sharing. With Love and Gratitude, Shari 💞

Great interview. Came upon Sarah a few weeks ago in a dark time and her light has lifted me up. Beautiful work! I too have read Eckhart Tolle and learned so much. I needed this gentler way of Sarah. Feeling very grateful 🙏

I had a little "Gandleman-fest" and listened to 4 of your tracks (2 bedtime and Pts 1 and 2 of 'Sarah').
What fun I have had, twice falling asleep to your stories and this morning listening to you three laughing, teasing, and playing off each other's vibrations. While I am learning to love myself, this allowed me to lighten up and not feel so alone in the process. Thank you.

Wonderful interview of my fave first teacher ,Sarah . Thanks David ! Love your questions and humor! J I’m fell asleep during meditation.. I’ll have to check the end out again ! Recommended!! 💫💫💫💫💫

An amazing and moving talk with three lovely teachers 🙏. Thank you so much for this podcast.. I follow you all as my teachers and what I loved about this talk was the guidance, listening to the different learning journeys you have all taken and the experiences that you shared about your meditative practice. My first books were also Dan Millman and Eckhart Tolle. I found your experiences helped me to relax and know that my meditation journey is good enough. As I work as a psychotherapist, I include guided meditation and this talk has given me some fantastic insights that I can incorporate into my sessions. The meditation at the end was beautiful. From my heart to yours 💓 Thank you. 🙏I look forward to seeing the book, listening to further talks and meditations. 🙏

Such wonderful, beautiful words of wisdom shared throughout this podcast. Love Sarah! Such a treat. 💞 Thank you!! 🙏🏼

Really excellent interview and listening to Sarah- part 1 & 2 - the meditation at the end of part 2 is beautiful.

I am so attracted to kind and wise interactions like this! It warms my heart and makes me wonder what life could be like with conversations like this in it...Thank you for making this available to us 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻

Beautiful. Vulnerable. Empowering! Nurturing. Thank you! 💞

I went to sleep easily after I listened. Woke up thinking self care is my first step. 🙏🏻

Thank you to all three of you for sharing your journey! As was mentioned in part one or two what we open our hearts to comes to us when we are ready. These two podcasts came in such a way for me today. God bless you all!

Wonderful speech and tender meditation 🙏🏻 I just loved! Thank you! Namaste 🙏🏻

That was so awesome and helpful!! I want to get in touch with my energy and others energy too!

When Cody had that image of Sarah as a tree - that was her aura that he saw. Sarah even said that her life is so grounded! You all spoke about seeing the energies of people and houses, and about opening up to your “imagination”. Just another tiny step Cody, and maybe you can start admitting your sixth sense into its full being... That was was transformational you guys. Thank you!!! 🙏🏻🌟

This was so so sweet. Blooming jasmine. Thanks Sarah, David, & Cody.